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footprints
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tahir
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footprints
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footprints
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Treacodactyl Downsizer Moderator
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 25795 Location: Jumping on the bandwagon of opportunism
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cab
Joined: 01 Nov 2004 Posts: 32429
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 05 9:33 am Post subject: |
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Ooh! I like a challenge on a Friday morning!
Charcoal burners; you're half way there, they ARE russulas, so you've got the genus right.
Top one that may be a charcoal burner... Naah, doesn't seem right for that, a bit too delicate. I'd say give that one a tentative little nibble and spit it out; if it tastes reasoable and doesn't burn, in the basket it goes. It's a russula in Britain, it isn't red, if its cooked its safe. All depends on whether it tastes good.
Next row down, red russula... Well it comes down to a small selection. It's a dark rather than vivid red, so probably safe, BUT you can only really distinguish between the red russulas when you know the habitat (what trees were there?) and when you can give it a good smell. There are a couple of red russulas referred to as sickeners that you really want to avoid.
Cracking boletus... Yeah, maybe. Did it bruise green or did the flesh stain when it was cut?
As for the others... Can't tell from those pics.
Looks like a good little walk in the woods! |
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footprints
Joined: 26 May 2005 Posts: 234 Location: North Wales
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 05 10:55 am Post subject: |
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cab wrote: |
Ooh! I like a challenge on a Friday morning!
Charcoal burners; you're half way there, they ARE russulas, so you've got the genus right.
Top one that may be a charcoal burner... Naah, doesn't seem right for that, a bit too delicate. I'd say give that one a tentative little nibble and spit it out; if it tastes reasoable and doesn't burn, in the basket it goes. It's a russula in Britain, it isn't red, if its cooked its safe. All depends on whether it tastes good.
Next row down, red russula... Well it comes down to a small selection. It's a dark rather than vivid red, so probably safe, BUT you can only really distinguish between the red russulas when you know the habitat (what trees were there?) and when you can give it a good smell. There are a couple of red russulas referred to as sickeners that you really want to avoid.
Cracking boletus... Yeah, maybe. Did it bruise green or did the flesh stain when it was cut?
As for the others... Can't tell from those pics.
Looks like a good little walk in the woods! |
Thanks for viewing the pictures and giving your opinion.
Hope the pictures were easy to access. Perhaps I would be better just numbering the pictures F1 F2 F3 ?
As for give it a nibble (' ') not a chance
I have just been to cut and bruise the cracked boletus and a few minutes later checked the colour and it does appear to have a bluey green tinge to it, but its only slight.
The trees were mainly beech I think. Under the conifers there was nothing of note. Is this usual ? The are lots of woods on Anglesey that are owned by the forestry commision, and its okay to wander. Just wondering if it is a waste of time ?
Give it a nibble indeed! My enjoyment will have to be the hunt, and the taking of pictures. I'll leave the dare devil stuff to others
Just checking the footpath maps for the next sortee  |
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Bugs
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 10744
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cab
Joined: 01 Nov 2004 Posts: 32429
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 05 11:19 am Post subject: |
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Bugs wrote: |
I always worry that you could mistake a red russula for something narsty like a fly agaric, which can get the veil washed off? What divides them, for the amateur? White gills scare me... |
White gills should make you think, but not scare you.
Russulas have no ring, no volva or swelling on the base of the stem, the gills can be ever so slightly running onto the stems in some species, but never far, and they're kind of crumbly.
Amanita has a ring, and usually some veil remnants on top, and a volva; at worst, there'll usually be some kind of swelling where the volva has rotted in a bit.
Best plan is to get out there and sniff and feel some, the difference between the meaty fly agaric and the rather crumbly russulas will be apparent to you.
But in truth, if you're at all concerned about red russulas, don't pick 'em. The one or two red ones that are nice aren't so very nice that you NEED to pick them. |
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cab
Joined: 01 Nov 2004 Posts: 32429
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footprints
Joined: 26 May 2005 Posts: 234 Location: North Wales
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cab
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footprints
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nettie
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cab
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 05 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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nettie wrote: |
Wow is that right about the colour of the Russulas cab? They're the next ones on my list to try. I'm still (groan) awaiting my copy of the Phillips book from Amazon, I've been waiting 12 weeks.
There have been loads of what I think are russulas, with almost black tops. The've been munched heavily by slugs. If you're saying I should go ahead then that's fabulous!! I'll pick a few and check out my friend's copy of Phillips first. |
Good old Richard Mabey tells us that none of the russula species in Britain is poisonous when cooked (food for free, great book). So my normal practice is to decide whether or not it's a sickener or something similar (don't want one of those), have a sniff see if it's nice, see if I can decide whether it's a good edible species (charcoal burner, yellow swamp russula, a few others) or a half decent one (common yellow russula and many, many others). If I still don't know, I sniff it again, have a tentative, tiny little nibble and spit. I'm looking for it not to burn, taste like soap, and leave a pleasant aftertaste. If it's good, into the basket it goes, generally to be cooked in butter and olive oil and tossed into pasta.
'Course, I might poison myself one day  |
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