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tahir

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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 05 1:26 pm Post subject: X Windows
Thought I'd have a go at X Windows, what do I need to get an X windows session running under Win2K?

jema
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 05 1:34 pm Post subject: Re: X Windows

tahir wrote:

Thought I'd have a go at X Windows, what do I need to get an X windows session running under Win2K?

Blast from the past

I have debugged bits of X windows at the code level

Will try and give you something more useful later.

jema
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 05 3:06 pm Post subject:
What are you actually trying to do? there are xwindows servers out there like: https://www.winaxe.com/download-free-xwindows-server.html I run Xwindows all the time, in the sense of opneing a vnc session onto a linux xwindows session. As this acheives what I need to do. e.g. I need a desktop on linux and not the odd application running.

tahir

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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 05 3:09 pm Post subject:
I want to run an X windows session on my Win2k PC. are you saying I need VNC and an X windows client?

tahir

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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 05 3:10 pm Post subject:
That link doesn't work

jema
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 05 3:13 pm Post subject:

tahir wrote:

I want to run an X windows session on my Win2k PC. are you saying I need VNC and an X windows client?

No you don't need VNC. For what you say would want to do, you need an X server.

My question is why do you need an actual X Windows session? When you can see a complete Linux desktop with VNC. This on a LAN is a pretty smooth way of seeing an X application, so why the need to "do it properly"?

jema
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 05 3:14 pm Post subject:

tahir wrote:

That link doesn't work

Does for me

But that was a random link, I do not know much about windows based xservers.

tahir

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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 05 3:17 pm Post subject:

jema wrote:

My question is why do you need an actual X Windows session? When you can see a complete Linux desktop with VNC. This on a LAN is a pretty smooth way of seeing an X application, so why the need to "do it properly"?

Gotcha, but how does VNC know which session to display or does it automatically display what's on the console?

jema
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 05 3:23 pm Post subject:

tahir wrote:

jema wrote:

Gotcha, but how does VNC know which session to display or does it automatically display what's on the console?

You rig linux so when it starts up it creates virtual displays:

You may have a file:

/etc/sysconfig/vncservers

mine has the line:

VNCSERVERS="1:martin 2:sean"

This creates displays 1 and 2 based on some vnc config stuff in my and seans home directories.

I'll see if I can rake out a link.

bagpuss

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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 05 3:33 pm Post subject:

cygwin is an open source free x windows client for windows but as jema says what you want really depends on what you want to do with it

if you want free and or open source programs there are several which aren't xwindows based or at least have windows ports so you don't need xwindows but instread they take advantage of windows rendering protocols

If you want to run xwindows programs either natively or on a remote machine it does kind of depend

I once tried to install cygwin but I never really had the time or energy to pay with it so never really go it to do much

jema
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 05 3:34 pm Post subject:
I can see loads of links but maybe we need to get some cogs engaged first like do you have: /etc/sysconfig/vncservers and /etc/rc.d/init.d/vncserver

tahir

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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 05 3:36 pm Post subject:
Got both

jema
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 05 3:40 pm Post subject:
Then I would add lines like wot I did. then go into the init.d directory and type: ./vncserver restart it will proably prompt you for some one off stuff like a password. When this is done try starting a session from windows: e.g. if you linux machine has an IP of 192.168.0.240 try 192.168.0.240:1 as the server address.

dougal

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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 05 3:41 pm Post subject:

bagpuss wrote:

cygwin is an open source free x windows client for windows ....

One strangeness of X is that the *client* is the back-end program and the *server* is the program on the computer you sit at with keyboard, mouse and display.
So I'd guess you're looking for a Win2k X*server* to display the result of a program running on a linux box...
Confused? You will be!

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