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tahir

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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 06 11:28 am Post subject:

Bernie66 wrote:

bodger wrote:

I'm sure that I've read somewhere about people snaring songbirds and the like with horse hair.

Why would you want to snare songbirds anyway?

A delicacy in much of Europe and Asia

Bernie66

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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 06 11:29 am Post subject:
24 in one pie? Lots of effort

Bodger

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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 06 11:30 am Post subject:

Bernie66 wrote:

bodger wrote:

I'm sure that I've read somewhere about people snaring songbirds and the like with horse hair.

Why would you want to snare songbirds anyway?

Bernie
I most defintely wouldn't, but in the bad old days there was a big trade in both singing birds and plumage for hats and the like .

Snares were also used for catching sparrows for food. Sparrow pie was very popular in the countryside.

Bernie66

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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 06 11:31 am Post subject:
Cheers

Jonnyboy

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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 06 11:38 am Post subject:
What sort of damage do the bunnies do to themselves before they either break their necks or you get to them?

quixote

Joined: 26 Oct 2006
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 06 11:41 am Post subject:
Absolutely none.........err, well, apart from the aforementioned 'breaking of the neck' !!! There are generally signs that the bun's thrashed around a bit, but I've never actually seen one kill itself in the snare. Years ago, I used snares with no stops, and there's no doubt in my mind nowadays that there was a lot more suffering involved. I would'nt dream of using plain snares now

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 06 11:48 am Post subject:

tahir wrote:

A pheasant found a way into our netted off pea patch the other day, I had to get in there to get it out, could I have just killed and eaten it?

Legally you would need a game licence IIRC.

Jonnyboy

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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 06 11:51 am Post subject:

Quixote wrote:

Absolutely none.........err, well, apart from the aforementioned 'breaking of the neck' !!! There are generally signs that the bun's thrashed around a bit, but I've never actually seen one kill itself in the snare. Years ago, I used snares with no stops, and there's no doubt in my mind nowadays that there was a lot more suffering involved. I would'nt dream of using plain snares now

So a live bunny is normally pretty healthy before you pull it's neck and would be able to survive, if, it managed to free itself?

tahir

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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 06 11:51 am Post subject:

Treacodactyl wrote:

tahir wrote:

A pheasant found a way into our netted off pea patch the other day, I had to get in there to get it out, could I have just killed and eaten it?

Legally you would need a game licence IIRC.

That's what I wanted to know. Hmm, how'd you get one of those?

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 06 11:58 am Post subject:

tahir wrote:

Treacodactyl wrote:

tahir wrote:

A pheasant found a way into our netted off pea patch the other day, I had to get in there to get it out, could I have just killed and eaten it?

Legally you would need a game licence IIRC.

That's what I wanted to know. Hmm, how'd you get one of those?

Post office, about �10 I think. However, in years past many POs have run out of 'em.

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 06 11:59 am Post subject: Re: Snaring

Quixote wrote:

I'd be interested to hear other opinions though

It's something I would like to learn especially as it needs minimal equipment. One question, what sort of time does it take between setting a snare and rabbits venturing out and being caught? Rather than leave a snare animal for a few hours I'd like to dispatch them asap.

Bernie66

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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 06 12:01 pm Post subject:

tahir wrote:

Treacodactyl wrote:

tahir wrote:

A pheasant found a way into our netted off pea patch the other day, I had to get in there to get it out, could I have just killed and eaten it?

Legally you would need a game licence IIRC.

That's what I wanted to know. Hmm, how'd you get one of those?

Try online, some do, just googled it.

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 06 12:04 pm Post subject:

Treacodactyl wrote:

Post office, about �10 I think. However, in years past many POs have run out of 'em.

Will have to try our local

quixote

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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 06 12:05 pm Post subject:

Jonnyboy wrote:

would be able to survive, if, it managed to free itself?

That's the idea. Generally though, if the snare's positioned & set correctly it's a foregone conclusion. The idea of the stop is to reduce the impact of snaring on non-target species (for instance,my fox-snares are fitted with a coil spring to reduce the potential for injury should a badger, etc, be inadverdantly caught)

Defra have introduced a set of guidelines if you want to have a read?

https://www.defra.gov.uk/wildlife-countryside/vertebrates/snares/pdf/snares-cop.pdf

Jonnyboy

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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 06 12:27 pm Post subject:
Thanks.

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