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marigold
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gz
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frewen
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Eigon
Joined: 25 Dec 2012 Posts: 11
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 12 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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Where I live, there's a lot of local discussion (to put it mildly) about the possibility of a new supermarket moving in.
Some locals did a shopping basket survey, and found that shopping in the local shops was over �7.00 cheaper than shopping in a supermarket - and there was no cost for petrol or bus fare (as there is now) because it can all be done on foot - and you actually get to meet your neighbours!
I do nearly all my shopping in the local shops - a local baker who also plays the accordian for the local morris dancing side, two excellent butchers, one completely organic, two greengrocers, who will also stock produce from local gardens sometimes. For canned goods, milk and so on, there's Londis and Spar - so there's no avoiding that, but I think I went to the Co-op five or six times last year, and Morrisons twice to buy bottled beer! |
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chez
Joined: 13 Aug 2006 Posts: 35935 Location: The Hive of the Uberbee, Quantock Hills, Somerset
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Mithril
Joined: 22 Jul 2011 Posts: 1755 Location: wessex
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crofter
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Rob R
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 31902 Location: York
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Mithril
Joined: 22 Jul 2011 Posts: 1755 Location: wessex
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 12 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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With severe peanut and nut allergies in the family it's very difficult to become supermarket free. We get a veg box, but meat, oils, cheeses etc could easily contain traces, so I really rely on allergy warnings onlabels. |
Meat & cheese containing nuts? Manufacturered products I can see but plain meat & dairy are usually produced in more highly hygienic dedicated facilities than veg... |
There seem to be a few speciality cheeses around, with say walnuts, and many butchers use stuffings which may contain nuts or traces of nuts (some sausages too). With such severe allergies, (even a trace can be a problem), I'm never sure how safe they are for allergy sufferers. The thing with the supermarkets is that they will state if the product is free from traces of nuts. Even then, if the nut free product is on the meat, cheese or deli counter with nut products I still daren't buy it, so I end up having to buy the packaged stuff. |
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Rob R
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 31902 Location: York
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earthyvirgo
Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 7972 Location: creating prints in the loft, Gerlan
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Mithril
Joined: 22 Jul 2011 Posts: 1755 Location: wessex
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 12 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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Rob R wrote: |
If a factory handles nuts they usually list non-nut products as possibly containing traces of nuts but I've not heard of nut-free labelling, as that leaves you open to litigation if some nut traces were found to be present at some point. We're advised to label if there is a chance, rather than if there isn't one.
Small scale producers of cheese & meat are less likely than supermarkets to contain traces as they're dealing with smaller batches and hence far less chance of cross contamination. Artisan cheesemakers, as opposed to large factories or cheesemongers, tend to only have a select few speciality cheeses that they produce and rarely blend fruit & nuts the way the big factories do. There are also fewer people involved that could accidentally introduce traces through personal contamination. The sheer scale of mass food production & distribution puts the chances of a foodstuff coming into contact with nuts far higher than buying direct, on a par with the veg box producers.
You're free to choose how and where to buy the safest products for yourself but I wouldn't like it to be put forward as an advantage of supermarkets, for the reasons stated above. |
Certainly food for thought, thanks.
Currently, if I know the food producer labels for traces then I'm fine with buying something that just does not list nuts as a potential allergen (unless I spot too many recalls on Allergy UK etc). As for nut free labelling, Waitrose produce a free from nut and peanut list (and also lists for some other allergens). I'm not aware of any others who do this, other than a few chocolate makers, e.g. Kinnerton. |
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arvo
Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Posts: 3321 Location: Somerset
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toggle
Joined: 30 Dec 2006 Posts: 11622 Location: truro
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Pilgrim1975
Joined: 30 Jan 2012 Posts: 149 Location: Here And There
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