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RichardW

Joined: 24 Aug 2006
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Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 07 9:02 pm Post subject: Here we go again (Avian Influenza)
Just saw on the news that some turkeys have died & are being tested for AI. Thought we had got off light this year with no media hype. Justme

Bernie66

Joined: 14 Jan 2005
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Location: Eastoft

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 07 9:09 pm Post subject:
I do sincerely hope not

RichardW

Joined: 24 Aug 2006
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Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 07 10:10 pm Post subject:

Bernie66 wrote:

I do sincerely hope not

You & me both. Last year cost me enough with lost POL & chicken meat sales.

Justme

Cathryn

Joined: 16 Jul 2005
Posts: 19856
Location: Ceredigion

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 07 11:04 pm Post subject:
Ah well - it will take their minds of global warming. I am being cyncial here - my hens are going to hate it if they have to go in again

sean
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Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: North Devon

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 07 7:33 am Post subject:
BBC News

RichardW

Joined: 24 Aug 2006
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Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 07 9:52 am Post subject:
So they are all shed reared birds then... So there goes the "bring your birds inside" defence then..... Guess it will be the slash & burn method instead. Hope its not the N strain. Best get any birds you are planning on eating killed & in the freezer now. Justme

cab

Joined: 01 Nov 2004
Posts: 32429

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 07 12:29 pm Post subject:
Oh crap. Don't panic yet. It isn't necessarily the same strain as the one that has played merry hell in the far east. Too early to say how this strain got to that farm, but ain't it shocking how much damage these diseases can do when they get into battery farms?

LynneA

Joined: 25 Oct 2006
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Location: London N21

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 07 12:37 pm Post subject:

160,000 birds? If the illustration on the BBC website is anywhere near to scale they were is a shockingly small area. No wonder the virus spread so rapidly.

I hope they can contain this - there are some key wetland reserves nearby and I'd hate to see the blame placed there.

Seeing who the farm is run for, I have a sneaking suspicion that poor biosecurity (eg. someone or something introduced by recent international travel) is the cause rather than wild bird contact.

cab

Joined: 01 Nov 2004
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 07 12:41 pm Post subject:
We can't know how the virus got in yet, but if these are indeed indoor reared birds with no access to the outside then yeah, the default explanation is poor biosecurity. Poor things, lived a crap life then killed by bird flu.

Mr O

Joined: 13 Feb 2005
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 07 4:47 pm Post subject:
There is a bit more info here https://www.defra.gov.uk/news/latest/2007/animal-0203.htm

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 07 6:07 pm Post subject:
The BBC are now reporting it is the same strain "confirmed as the highly pathogenic Asian strain of the H5N1 virus".

Mrs Fiddlesticks

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 07 6:09 pm Post subject:
not good is it How could it have got in do you think?

Jonnyboy

Joined: 29 Oct 2004
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Location: under some rain.

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 07 6:12 pm Post subject:
Strange that it got into a closed system like a Bernard Matthews turkey farm.

chez

Joined: 13 Aug 2006
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Location: The Hive of the Uberbee, Quantock Hills, Somerset

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 07 6:12 pm Post subject:
So should we be keeping our birds in, then?

Mrs Fiddlesticks

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 07 6:26 pm Post subject:

Jonnyboy wrote:

Strange that it got into a closed system like a Bernard Matthews turkey farm.

but it sort of proves how quickly it can spread in such confined quarters. Would a free range flock have fared better do you think?

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