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dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46212
Location: yes

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 05 1:26 am Post subject: lobster
or find lobster mark bait pot secure pot wait return to check pot get lobster or not repeat process try not to get drowned or need to be rescued if it was easy ...... well we would all do it

footprints

Joined: 26 May 2005
Posts: 234
Location: North Wales

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 05 8:52 am Post subject: lobsters

I used to have shares in a small fishing boat with my Father. We used to net and pot in the Menai Straights for lobster /bass/mullet etc, and would very often catch more lobsters in nets than in pots.

Towards the end of the year when the salmon were running, we would bait the pots with whole sides of large salmon. During this time of the year you could not avoid catching the salmon, but you were not allowed to land them.

We have eaten whole sides of salmon (with your fingers) cooked on a fire on the shore, while we were cleaning and repacking nets

woodyandluna

Joined: 05 Jul 2005
Posts: 71
Location: Milton Keynes

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 05 8:30 pm Post subject: Re: lobsters

footprints wrote:

We have eaten whole sides of salmon (with your fingers) cooked on a fire on the shore, while we were cleaning and repacking nets

That truly is the good life. I envy you!!

Now where's my boat..????

zigs

Joined: 02 Sep 2005
Posts: 524
Location: Somerset

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 05 5:28 am Post subject:
as a hobby fisherperson, you are only allowed to take 2 lobsters a day, they must be over the minimum size & you cannot take one that has a "v" notch cut in its tail

hils

Joined: 08 Mar 2005
Posts: 568
Location: Nottingham

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 05 8:00 am Post subject:
I am a TOTAL novice with all this, what can you potentially catch from a river which isnt fish? I remember a River Cottage episode catching crayfish - how easy is this. Also the river was haeavily polluted about 3 years ago but I've seen loads of fish in it recently and kingfishers thriving. If I did manage to catch anything to eat would it be safe?

judith

Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Posts: 22789
Location: Montgomeryshire

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 05 8:59 am Post subject:

ziggy searchfield wrote:

you cannot take one that has a "v" notch cut in its tail

Another non-fisherperson here. What does the "v" indicate - is it one that is being monitored in a scientific study?

mochyn

Joined: 21 Dec 2004
Posts: 24585
Location: mid-Wales

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 05 3:23 pm Post subject:
If you're after crayfish you can only catch the invasive Signal crayfish: the natives are protected. I'm sure someone here knows more about this than I do, though!

zigs

Joined: 02 Sep 2005
Posts: 524
Location: Somerset

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 05 5:38 am Post subject:

yeah, the v notch would be a study thing, lobsters live for a very long time, one caught in usa a few years ago had a reprieve from the table when someone realised it was over 50 years old, he is now in an aquarium.

it is illegal to set a trap for cray fish ( even the signal crays ) without a licence from the environment agency. but they are very keen to reduce the numbers of signals so a licence shouldnt be a problem. the signals carry a fungus which is wiping out our native, smaller crayfish, any of these caught should be returned.

isnt mochyn welsh for badger ?

dougal

Joined: 15 Jan 2005
Posts: 7184
Location: South Kent

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 05 10:26 am Post subject:

Crayfish:

There is a fundamental distinction between the endangered and protected native "white-clawed" crayfish and the unwelcome import the Signal Crayfish.

A change in the law came into force on 1st June 2005, so that it became possible for the Environment Agency to actually issue licenses to legally trap crayfish, ie Signals. (Previously that was only possible in the Thames area.)
https://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/news/1131299

If your area has a problem with Signals, then it shouldn't be a problem getting permission.

If you are fishing for anything else and catch a Signal, it is illegal to return it to the wild. It must be killed.
Crayfish must not be used as bait when fishing.

You need a license to "transport" Crayfish, but there must be an exemption to allow you to take them a short distance home.
You need yet another license to "keep" Crayfish - although there is an exemption if they are for "immediate consumption". There is also a Postcode list where the license to keep is not required - because the area is already infested with Signals... (a good indication of where Signals are to be found!)
https://www.defra.gov.uk/fish/freshwater/pdf/licreq.pdf

Executive summary: contact your local Environment Agency office and they should be very helpful if there is a local Signal problem. But expect them to be very *discouraging* if you have a surviving population of natives...

Note - it may be quite different in Scotland - where "criminal gangs" are deliberately stocking rivers with Signals, so as to harvest them and pass them off in restaurants as "lobster". Well, thats what it says in the paper, anyway
https://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1807002005

You should keep the little blighters for a day or two so that any nasties in their gut have time to clear through. However if the water they have been living in is polluted, the animal will have absorbed contaminants into its meat, and there wouldn't be any pleasure, for me, in eating them.

mochyn

Joined: 21 Dec 2004
Posts: 24585
Location: mid-Wales

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 05 7:16 pm Post subject:

Ziggy: mochyn is Welsh for pig: certainly not an insult (we live for the pig, we die for the pig), although badger (broch in Welsh) could be. We have a badger overpopulation problem here, and, as a result, are losing all our ground-nesting birds. They also kill poultry and such. There is one rather lovely little badger who comes into our yard and eats slugs, so they're not all bad, but our poultry run, veg garden and fruit cage are all heavily fortified! All they need is corner gun emplacements.

zigs

Joined: 02 Sep 2005
Posts: 524
Location: Somerset

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 05 6:20 am Post subject:
ahh, i was told badger was mochyn daer, or earth pig, the broch name would be more in keeping with the old english brock i supose. badgers used to wreak havock on my field, thought onions were footballs.

Cathryn

Joined: 16 Jul 2005
Posts: 19856
Location: Ceredigion

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 05 2:49 pm Post subject:
It is also the nick name (mochyn) of a friend of ours - who is in the police force

zigs

Joined: 02 Sep 2005
Posts: 524
Location: Somerset

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 05 8:41 am Post subject:
found this page, may be of interest https://www.swsfc.org.uk/vnotching.htm

Bodger

Joined: 23 May 2006
Posts: 13524

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 06 6:06 am Post subject:
Welcom Lugige ! If you live near the coast, you'll no doubt have some monsters to catch !

Jonnyboy

Joined: 29 Oct 2004
Posts: 23956
Location: under some rain.

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 06 6:26 am Post subject:
I'm afraid that Lugige is a spambot, don't click on his link.

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