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Mistress Rose

Joined: 21 Jul 2011
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 18 6:08 am Post subject:
I have grown the 'Wight' garlic in the past, which worked quite well, but we are in the south of England within sight of the Isle of Wight.

sgt.colon

Joined: 27 Jul 2009
Posts: 7380
Location: Just south of north.

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 18 9:19 am Post subject:
Thanks you two. On the back of that, am I okay to grow onions and garlic together?

Mistress Rose

Joined: 21 Jul 2011
Posts: 15998

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 18 6:07 am Post subject:
Well I have grown them in the same bed, but not sure if that is the correct thing to do. We have very light soil, so find I need to put plenty of compost into the soil to retain moisture.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46249
Location: yes

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 18 9:19 am Post subject:

different spacing but both need similar soil/ water/sunshine etc, both prone to similar pests n illnesses.
same bed same time is ok.

different bed next season.

iirc the use of a hoe is important and row spacing is as much about having room to work without chopping your crop as it is about space for the green bits to gather sunlight in.

thinking of hoes , try borrowing a few types off the other allotmenteers to find a style that works for you and the sort of planting you do.

ps hoes are a cutting tool so do remember to keep it sharp

Mistress Rose

Joined: 21 Jul 2011
Posts: 15998

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 18 7:30 am Post subject:
I find various thing are inclined to ruin my careful spacing unfortunately. The worst was when we had a vixen reared some cubs in the buddliea bed and the little dears played football with the sets. I always grow from sets btw.

sgt.colon

Joined: 27 Jul 2009
Posts: 7380
Location: Just south of north.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 18 9:05 am Post subject:
Thank you guys. MR, you should maybe see if you can interest the Match of the day people. I'd watch that. Well my beds are 4' wide so I was thinking onion sets on the outside of the beds with a row of garlic running down the middle. I hope that makes sense?

Slim

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Posts: 6613
Location: New England (In the US of A)

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 18 1:05 pm Post subject:
As much sense as anything.

buzzy

Joined: 04 Jan 2011
Posts: 3708
Location: In a small wood on the edge of the Huntingdonshire Wolds

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 18 2:53 pm Post subject:
Since the onions will be larger/taller (presumably) than the garlic wouldn't it be better to have them in the centre and the garlic outside? Henry

Slim

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Posts: 6613
Location: New England (In the US of A)

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 18 2:57 pm Post subject:
I would be surprised to see onions larger than garlic. Garlic tends to shoot up out of the ground a bit faster than onions, so should reach height first as well. Then again, I'm speaking from a different perspective than perhaps UK growers. Here the norm is to plant garlic in mid-October and harvest in July/August, and to plant onion starts in April/May and harvest in August

sgt.colon

Joined: 27 Jul 2009
Posts: 7380
Location: Just south of north.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 18 3:01 pm Post subject:
I am over wintering both the garlic and the onions but I was going with garlic down the middle as I have more onions than I do garlic.

Mistress Rose

Joined: 21 Jul 2011
Posts: 15998

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 18 6:02 am Post subject:
It is up to you. I tend to plant garlic one end of the bed and fill the rest with onions.

gz

Joined: 23 Jan 2009
Posts: 8957
Location: Ayrshire, Scotland

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 18 8:50 am Post subject:
A better plan MR, as they get lifted at different times

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45676
Location: Essex

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 18 9:12 am Post subject:
One day I'll have a veg plot again. God I miss home grown leeks, garlic and onions. I alway grew onions and shallots from seed, plant in pots indoors boxing dayish. Always much better than sets for me. Long Red Florence onions and Cuisse de Poulet shallots...

sgt.colon

Joined: 27 Jul 2009
Posts: 7380
Location: Just south of north.

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 18 9:40 am Post subject:
I'll go with your suggestion MR, thanks. So one last question. Garlic seems quite expensive for a bulb or two, so am I able to save a couple of home grown ones next year to replant more garlic? Or does quality reduce that way? Thanks.

sgt.colon

Joined: 27 Jul 2009
Posts: 7380
Location: Just south of north.

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 18 9:42 am Post subject:

tahir wrote:

One day I'll have a veg plot again.

Do you not have the room or the time these day's Tahir?

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