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Barefoot Andrew
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 14 8:59 am Post subject:
What they all said VP now get on with it, chop chop. A.

12Bore

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tahir

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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 14 10:32 am Post subject:
Yay!

Ty Gwyn

Joined: 22 Sep 2010
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Location: Lampeter

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 14 10:59 am Post subject:
Glad things are starting to move for you both, Looking at that view,is the lower land what they call the ``Foot Fields``? Many years back i purchased a Stallion that was leased out to a farmer who lived near Bodedern,but had land in that low area,just before Gwalchmai,one could see the dykes that drained the land.

nickdugs

Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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Location: Eglwysbach

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 14 10:36 am Post subject:
My offer of help is still valid. Live near Llanrwst and commute to Valley, so if you need anything picking up/dropping off (with my van) then just let me know.

vegplot

Joined: 19 Apr 2007
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Location: Bethesda, Gwynedd

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 14 10:49 am Post subject:

nickdugs wrote:

My offer of help is still valid. Live near Llanrwst and commute to Valley, so if you need anything picking up/dropping off (with my van) then just let me know.

Thanks Nick. Living in Llanrwst is ideal as you'll be close to Ned Scharer's Natural Building Centre.

You're welcome to pop in for a visit just drop be a line. 07772653489.

vegplot

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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 14 10:51 am Post subject:

Ty Gwyn wrote:

Looking at that view,is the lower land what they call the ``Foot Fields``?

I've no idea to be honest. The topography is very varied. Over the ridge is marsh ground.

vegplot

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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 14 4:47 pm Post subject:

The build process is critical to this project unlike a brick and block house, which can be left partially built for extended periods, we have to ensure we get a weather tight roof on as quickly as possible.

The current thinking is to get to the ground floor plinth including the limecrete floor so we have a level surface to work on. Then the roof timbers are erected, braced, and sheathed which will then be craned onto temporary supports slightly higher than it's final height. This will provide a shelter while the walls are being built. Once the walls are up the roof is then lowered onto the bales compressing them when we can then get on with lime rendering the strawbales.

We have to consider the weather while the roof is on temporary supports and requires careful planning and co-ordination.

RichardW

Joined: 24 Aug 2006
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Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 14 5:07 pm Post subject:
Is it possible to erect a tent type structure over it all? Might cost but will allow you to get on with it even if the weather is pants.

vegplot

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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 14 5:13 pm Post subject:

RichardW wrote:

Is it possible to erect a tent type structure over it all?

Might cost but will allow you to get on with it even if the weather is pants.

If we can come up with a solution to support the roof while the walls are being built then we don't need to. The roof has a large overhand and will provide plenty of shelter. One problem will be wind but if we get good long range forecast for at least a week, preferably two then it should be a problem.

Ty Gwyn

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Location: Lampeter

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 14 5:38 pm Post subject:
I was under the impression that you would have had a wood frame that supported the roof independent of the walls,similar as they do in the wood frame houses they build,then build the straw walls under cover. Is there a reasoning for the straw bales to support the roof other than the weight of the roof to compress the bales?

vegplot

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Location: Bethesda, Gwynedd

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 14 6:18 pm Post subject:

Ty Gwyn wrote:

I was under the impression that you would have had a wood frame that supported the roof independent of the walls,similar as they do in the wood frame houses they build,then build the straw walls under cover.

Is there a reasoning for the straw bales to support the roof other than the weight of the roof to compress the bales?

Yes. It removes the need for a timber frame

. It's called load bearing straw bale.

RichardW

Joined: 24 Aug 2006
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Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 14 7:42 pm Post subject:
Is there not an industry standard way of doing this now? What will be the roof construction & cover?

vegplot

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Location: Bethesda, Gwynedd

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 14 7:59 pm Post subject:

RichardW wrote:

Is there not an industry standard way of doing this now?

What will be the roof construction & cover?

It's not overly different from normal roof construction but without the advantage of building on top of a stable platform. Load bearing Straw bale walls become very strong and rigid once the roof is on but are less stable prior to that make building roofs in-situ more uncertain.

There's nothing special about the roof.

vegplot

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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 14 8:05 pm Post subject:

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