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nettie

Joined: 02 Dec 2004
Posts: 5888
Location: Suffolk

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 05 11:36 pm Post subject:
None of my brassicas did very well in the shade last year. However you might find it good for the lettuces, as someone mentioned before, as they will be less likely to bolt. The perpetual spinach would do OK there too I reckon

judyofthewoods

Joined: 29 Jan 2005
Posts: 804
Location: Pembrokeshire

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 05 12:20 am Post subject:

I think I know which case that was about the hedge - It was very close to the house and on the south, so the house deteriorated very badly with damp. The farmer who planted the hedge on the boundary (next to a field) did it deliberatly to try and get the people to sell to him cheaply. I think he then put the pig manure pile close by. Legal costs escalated. I thought to myself at the time, why not just take a bucket of salt water to the roots? Its their property, so what they do on their property is up to them.

dougal

Joined: 15 Jan 2005
Posts: 7184
Location: South Kent

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 05 12:47 am Post subject:

For anyone of a legalistic bent, the law on hedge nuisance is changing. The new law has received Royal Assent, but does not take effect in England until June 2005.
ASBOs for those who refuse to keep their evergreen hedges low enough? Any such hedge over 2m adjacent to a boundary can be protested against...
There's a campaign called Hedgeline, with their own website (and forum!)
They summarise the current position here:
https://freespace.virgin.net/clare.h/hdg2Curr.htm#PRES
and their forum is here:
https://hedgeline.org/boardpower/boardpower.cgi

sally_in_wales
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Joined: 06 Mar 2005
Posts: 20809
Location: sunny wales

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 05 7:58 am Post subject:
What about woodland herbs? Things like sorrel and wild garlic and wild strawberried plus several of the raspberry type things that developed in woodlands should all be able to tolerate shade. How about a small nut tree- or even a pile of logs with oyster mushroom spore in them?

moggins

Joined: 24 Feb 2005
Posts: 942
Location: Gloucester

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 05 8:15 am Post subject:

I didn't know salt water would work

I'm definitely going to try sorrel this year so that can go there, if I can ever find some wild garlic I'll do that too. I already have a hazel which is attempting to take over my garden though. It's only been in four years and we've had nuts for the past two.

The ex is coming over next weekend with his petrol strimmer and we're going to lop some off the top, if they do protest then the job's already done and they don't like us anyway so the status quo won't change, if I can get about 2ft off the top then it will make a huge difference. It never used to be that high when his grandmother lived there anyway

judyofthewoods

Joined: 29 Jan 2005
Posts: 804
Location: Pembrokeshire

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 05 10:24 am Post subject:

moggins wrote:

I didn't know salt water would work

Not tried it myself, but a friend of mine said her cherry tree was killed that way by a neighbour who didn't like the pettals on the lawn. Not sure how she knows it was salt water though. Maybe the neighbour confessed, they are ironically on talking terms. I suspect you could only grow sea kale after that!
For shade, try also ramson, it grows profusely, and makes a nice garlic flavoured green.

wellington womble

Joined: 08 Nov 2004
Posts: 15051
Location: East Midlands

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 05 8:03 pm Post subject:

I've got a shady bit too. I'm bunging all the salad stuff that side, and the rhubarb. redcurrants will cope with north facing, so ought to be OK, and blackcurrants and goose gogs might be worth a go too. And some mushroom logs. Runner beans will gorw very happily on a north wall (nobody told me not to put them there, so I did, and they were delicious) carrots were OK there too.

I'd be more worried about the soil - the roots are greedy, and will need improvement, if you veggies are not to want for water and nutrients.

Poison them - its not as if he knows anything about gardening, and probably won't notice - just tell him thats quite common with neglected hedges/if they get too tall/this year/it happens to bad people - take yer pick! You could just ring them, but he might notice that if he looked!

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