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spicycauldron



Joined: 28 Aug 2007
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Location: North Yorkshire
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 08 9:21 am    Post subject: Monstrous Marans and constantly crowing ex-bats! Reply with quote
    

We bought four new hens yesterday, two Buff Orpingtons and two Cuckoo Marans. All beautiful birds but the breeder told us no need to clip wings on either breed, but the Marans gave me hell this morning when I let them all out.

They flew right up into our neighbour's tree and wouldn't come down for hours. Eventually I got all our birds new and old into the run and closed it, but both before and after closing them in, our four ex-bats have been crowing - and they're all girls - all the *&^%$� time.

From 5am to, as I type, 10.20am. As noisy as a bunch of cockerels.

I managed to clip the wing feathers of one Maran but it didn't stop it flying. And they proved impossible to catch. They only went into the run when it started hissing down with rain. So I ran from the house sharpish and locked them in!

I am so going to have to apologise to the neighbours for this. I will never EVER introduce new hens on a Saturday night again, or pay much heed to the idea that putting them into the coop when the established flock is asleep, and spraying new and old birds with vinegared water, somehow helps avoid upset and conflict. It hasn't done a damn thing.

I find myself praying our four ex-bats get hoarse throats and can't make a sound for a while! Surely to God they will get fed up of making the constant shrieking, bleating and crowing?????

Is there anything I can do? I've tried feeding treats, they get eaten while the crowing continues unabated; I've tried calming them down, they're having none of it.

The Buff Orpingtons are sweet, and no trouble at all.

Tavascarow



Joined: 06 Aug 2006
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Location: South Cornwall
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 08 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

You know you only clip one wing on each bird I assume?
If you do both they can still get airborne albeit a little weaker than before.
One wing upsets their balance.
As for crowing hens something I have never heard.
Only cocks crow, hens can make a lot of noise sometimes but mine never crow (Ala cockle doodle do).
Sure they will settle down in a few days.
You may have to sweeten your neighbors up with a few eggs when the start laying (Assuming they're hens).

spicycauldron



Joined: 28 Aug 2007
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Location: North Yorkshire
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 08 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I do, yep, but thank you for the advice. Only one wing clipped per bird, and I didn't do it half-heartedly. I've done it before although the maran's wings are a bit differently-shaped.

And yep, they're all hens. And we have one regular she-cockerel, she DOES crow, but the other ex-bats are following her example today!

Still making an unholy racket at 11am... Not even a few seconds' pause, not once!

Tradbritfowlco



Joined: 15 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 08 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

gosh, what a to-do - I'm prescribing a whole new flock of nice calm, gender-stable ixworths!

spicycauldron



Joined: 28 Aug 2007
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Location: North Yorkshire
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 08 11:54 am    Post subject: Now I've got an injured hen! I can do without today's drama! Reply with quote
    

It's just the most unbelievably hellish morning. Now I have an injured hen and it's my fault - I solved the problems between them all by turning the henhouse round and giving access to adults only into the main enclosure, and the newbies into the run with shelter (but no return access to the house, until bedtime, because they aren't due to start laying for a while yet).

But in the process of moving everything I dropped a paving slab on my favourite ex-bat! I am so upset. She went underneath it for worms, as they are prone to do, and I am sure I am not the first something like this has happened to, and the slab slipped.

I thought she was a goner. She was splatted, legs went everywhere, and wings, but there was a hole in the ground and her head and neck went into it, saving them from being crushed. But she appears to have a broken wing and maybe a broken leg. Definitely no broken neck. She can walk with a limp. It seems right wing and right leg are causing her pain.

I have her indoors, she's had some corn but no water yet. She was definitely in shock - certainly concussed - for a time, but I had her in a towel for ages, as she's the most cuddle-loving of our hens and used to being handled by me, and she was wet from the rain so I thought it best to get her dry.

She's now warming in front of the oven of all places - door ajar to let heat reach her in the cat-box I've got her in - and as comfortable as a bird in pain can be.

I can't get her to a vet on Sunday and I DO NOT WANT ANYONE, please, to suggest the Final Solution. If it's a wing and leg, she can heal. I am, however, prepared for her maybe not making it but right now she's alert. So...

Anyone any ideas on what I can do to make her feel better until I can get to a vet tomorrow morning? I'm going to post this as a new topic as well, in case anyone misses this topic but catches sight of my need for first aid advice on the main forum page!

lottie



Joined: 11 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 08 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

My Maran hens are quiet and certainly don't need their wings clipping----I'm sure they'll settle down---Maran cockrells on the other hand don't shut up all day

spicycauldron



Joined: 28 Aug 2007
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Location: North Yorkshire
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 08 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I can't remember a morning this bad. The noise has stopped, peace is restored but my favourite hen is seriously hurt and I did it.

woodsprite



Joined: 20 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 08 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Frankly leaving a bird in pain is cruel. Do the right thing or get her to a vet today.

spicycauldron



Joined: 28 Aug 2007
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Location: North Yorkshire
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 08 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

She's now sitting down but the right wing is held out slightly and I know for a fact she limps when she does try to walk. But she CAN walk, she isn't stuck in one place. And she is alert, engages with us, and clearly a fighter for life.

lottie



Joined: 11 Aug 2005
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Location: ceredigion
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 08 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Sorry--- but if it's that bad you should kill her.

woodsprite



Joined: 20 Mar 2006
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Location: North Herefordshire
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 08 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

and doubtless in lots of pain. Can you really bear to think of an animal suffering for 24 hours?

spicycauldron



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 08 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

It's a Sunday and no vets are open around us, or I would. My take is it would be cruel to neck her if she's treatable, and she's comfortable and certainly not in distress right now albeit in some degree of pain.

I wouldn't expect to put people down outside GP hours if they had broken bones and couldn't get to a hospital.

Don't mistake my compassion for an inability to recognise cold hard facts IF those cold hard facts were in evidence. Which they are currently not, far from it, thanks.

woodsprite



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 08 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Sorry to sat this SC but I do not see you as compassionate right now, not in the slightest. The compassionate thing would be to relieve the bird of her pain.

spicycauldron



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Location: North Yorkshire
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 08 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I might add she is now eating well, drinking, and 'talking' to me. She's looking quite relaxed considering what happened, but when she moves it is now clear her wing is broken. I did say no final solution talk, please, because I can face that if necessary, but making the point more than once clearly isn't being noted. What I really need to do is find a vet somewhere in my locality or even a little further afield whose opening hours aren't just 9 to bloomin' 5. I'm off to scour the online phone directories...

frewen



Joined: 08 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 08 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Try the bird sanctuaries? they may have better trauma knowledge/experience.

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