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badgerhill

Joined: 20 May 2008
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Location: Exmoor (nearly!)

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 08 3:38 pm Post subject:
uh oh. ok! thanks x

jamanda
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Joined: 22 Oct 2006
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Location: Devon

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 08 4:27 pm Post subject:
Just to reiterate - talk to Brown Bear - masses of patience, really good teacher and lives in the right County.

Brownbear

Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 14929
Location: South West

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 08 7:21 pm Post subject:
Hi - this is me. I live in Exeter and manage deer in various locations. I'd be happy to look at your land and offer what advice I can, help with applications etc. If you want to PM me I'd be happy to talk over your options and make suggestions. Very much including accompanying you on your first stalks, lending you a rifle etc.

KILLITnGRILLIT

Joined: 14 Sep 2006
Posts: 894
Location: Looking at a screen in the front room

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 08 8:12 pm Post subject:

vegplot wrote:

3. Go through the process of obtaining a firearms certificate, purchasing a suitable rifle, having the land registered with the police for the purpose of shooting deer and go on a deer stalking course such as the DSC1 run administered by BASC.

Is that a local thing, as I don`t know anyone here that has had to have that kind of thing on there certificate here ??

vegplot

Joined: 19 Apr 2007
Posts: 21301
Location: Bethesda, Gwynedd

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 08 11:35 pm Post subject:

KILLITnGRILLIT wrote:

vegplot wrote:

Is that a local thing, as I don`t know anyone here that has had to have that kind of thing on there certificate here ??

Probably, my take on it is that it is to become national. Land registration is moving away from local knowledge to a centralised computerised system. It has advantages, registered land won't need rechecking by your local FAO.

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Brownbear

Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 14929
Location: South West

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 08 3:37 am Post subject:

KILLITnGRILLIT wrote:

vegplot wrote:

Is that a local thing, as I don`t know anyone here that has had to have that kind of thing on there certificate here ??

It applies here if you have a closed certificate. Open certificate and you can still shoot where you have permission if you deem it safe.

vegplot

Joined: 19 Apr 2007
Posts: 21301
Location: Bethesda, Gwynedd

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 08 2:39 pm Post subject:

Brownbear wrote:

KILLITnGRILLIT wrote:

vegplot wrote:

Is that a local thing, as I don`t know anyone here that has had to have that kind of thing on there certificate here ??

It applies here if you have a closed certificate. Open certificate and you can still shoot where you have permission if you deem it safe.

My FAC says '...shall be used for deer stalking and for zeroing on any land deemed suitable by the chief officer of police for the area where the land is situated and over which the holder of this certificate has permission to shoot...'

'Deemed suitable' means suitable for this particular calibre. So I can't shoot on land which hasn't been approved for this calibre regardless of whether I consider it safe to do so or I have permission from the landowner. In effect I don't have an open licence.

KILLITnGRILLIT

Joined: 14 Sep 2006
Posts: 894
Location: Looking at a screen in the front room

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 08 8:38 pm Post subject:
That`s kinda strange as for the past 8 years mine has said ".....for fox and deer control and zeroing on any land over which the certificate holder has permission to shoot for this purpose with this class of firearm." Never had a mentor, only ever had permission on several farms and on various estates when at the foxes. Nowt as queer as folk eh? .

vegplot

Joined: 19 Apr 2007
Posts: 21301
Location: Bethesda, Gwynedd

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 08 9:04 pm Post subject:
What it boils down to is each chief constable can interpret the rather vague guidelines how they see fit. Idare say taht with more years behind me and more shooting rights my certificate will be re-worded. I'm at one end of the scale and BB the other.

lettucewoman

Joined: 26 Sep 2006
Posts: 7834
Location: Tiptoe in the Forest!!

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 08 10:11 pm Post subject:

vegplot wrote:

badgerhill wrote:

what what what?

He's refering to BrownBear, at least I think he is. There's probably a private joke in there somewhere. Don't worry you'll get used to it.

marcus brigstocke...mad ironic sardonic comedian

brownbear...mad ironic sardonic comedian gun master

vegplot

Joined: 19 Apr 2007
Posts: 21301
Location: Bethesda, Gwynedd

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 08 8:18 am Post subject:

lettucewoman wrote:

vegplot wrote:

badgerhill wrote:

what what what?

He's refering to BrownBear, at least I think he is. There's probably a private joke in there somewhere. Don't worry you'll get used to it.

marcus brigstocke...mad ironic sardonic comedian

brownbear...mad ironic sardonic comedian gun master

It what happens when you don't have a TV, chronic culture deficiency.

vegplot

Joined: 19 Apr 2007
Posts: 21301
Location: Bethesda, Gwynedd

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 08 9:17 pm Post subject:
I notice in the latest BASC magazine that deer stalker are now permitted to use deer calibre ammunition against foxes in England and Wales, bringing it into line with Scotland. All you need to do is apply for the variation on your licence.

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