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dpack



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 08 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

as an old punk i never thought i would use the words recruit more mods
nobody functions well if stressed ,if the workload is spread it will be done better so long as there is focussed ,not control ,umm planning and delegation

tahir



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 08 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

dpack wrote:
so long as there is focussed ,not control ,umm planning and delegation


We're trying to do that, but this is neither a dictatorship nor a corporation, it's much more a collective. I think we function well in the circumstances

Rob R



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 08 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

What is site policy on locked topics?

Sometimes locked threads leave unasked/answered questions that resurface some time later, though most people are reluctant to post them immediately after a lock in. Does locking discourage contributors from subsequently approaching such topics again? I know I do.

tahir



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 08 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Rob R wrote:
What is site policy on locked topics?


Case by case

cab



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 08 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

tahir wrote:
Rob R wrote:
What is site policy on locked topics?


Case by case


I think (in fact I know) that leaves many people who feel they have something new to add feeling rather reluctant to re-start a discussion when the previous topic was locked.

Jonnyboy



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 08 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

It's a bit like being a parent, whatever you do will be wrong.

It may be that the topic in question would have come to a satisfactory conclusion, and would have resulted in less angst over future discussions going sour. Equally it may have exploded and resulted in a member being banned from here, and the next set of debates being locked down to a far greater degree.

Now that neither is likely to happen it is easy in hindsight to criticise the decision, but we act in context. Hopefully future debates this won't be required as it is certainly not a preferred course of action.

tahir



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 08 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

cab wrote:
tahir wrote:
Rob R wrote:
What is site policy on locked topics?


Case by case


I think (in fact I know) that leaves many people who feel they have something new to add feeling rather reluctant to re-start a discussion when the previous topic was locked.


But it is generally applied only where offence has been caused or is in imminent danger of being caused. We are and will always remain an inclusive community.

vegplot



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 08 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I find locking rather parental.

tahir



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 08 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

vegplot wrote:
I find locking rather parental.


I'm happy for us to be seen in that light if that stops offence being caused to others, and I think Jon's view rather backs this up

Jonnyboy



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 08 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Rob R wrote:
What is site policy on locked topics?

Sometimes locked threads leave unasked/answered questions that resurface some time later, though most people are reluctant to post them immediately after a lock in. Does locking discourage contributors from subsequently approaching such topics again? I know I do.


The principle of someone having something new to add is great, the reality is often the same protagonists slugging it out over the same points like a scene from groundhog day. Which neither makes the site look good or encourage less vocal members to make what may be an interesting contribution.

That said, if someone had something genuinely new to add to the debate I can't see people objecting out of hand.

dpack



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 08 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

i could remove some letters from that and it would still make sense
adults can behave politely

Rob R



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 08 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I don't mean the policy on which ones get locked, I mean what is expected of people in response to a locked topic? [ie timings before points can be raised again. I think that when they stay locked people shy away from mentioning it ever again (or they may resurface in future threads which aren't on topic, but I know that it is down in the site guidelines, but then so is swearing, but that's largely ignored).]

Silas



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 08 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I think in this sort of situation, where nothing abusive or personal has yet been posted, but it looks very much like it might, a 24 hour lock out for cooling down and reflection may be a good idea.

cab



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 08 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

tahir wrote:

But it is generally applied only where offence has been caused or is in imminent danger of being caused. We are and will always remain an inclusive community.


If offense had been caused then its not likely that this discussion would have arisen here.

And lockind a thread because offense might be about to be caused... That hasn't been common in moderation here, and I'm uneasy that such may become the case unless doing so is questioned (so I think that Stacey raising the point has done the place a favour). If the aim is to retain an inclusive community spirit, I fear that locking a thread for fear that its about to become offensive may not be entirely compatible with that; do you think it sends out a good message?

vegplot



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 08 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

tahir wrote:
vegplot wrote:
I find locking rather parental.


I'm happy for us to be seen in that light if that stops offence being caused to others, and I think Jon's view rather backs this up


Surely that can be dealt with by locking selective users out rather than the whole thread and preventing others from continuing to make valid contributions.

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