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nettie



Joined: 02 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 05 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Eek yes mine look like that, Gavin! Thanks for that.

cab



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 05 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Gavin, it looks just like that. None of the peas had holes in, they were freshly bought this year, and it's appeared on two varieties.

Might spray, but I'll also look at biocontrol.

Ta very much for that.

gavin



Joined: 10 Feb 2005
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Location: Leeds, W Yorks
PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 05 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

If they don't look any more damaged than that, they could well "grow through" the problem without any spraying. Mine usually do - depends a bit on how big the seedlings are.

Did some digging around - little sods can over-winter on the seeds of all sorts of legumes . By the way - a good source of info on beasties and bugs https://www.inra.fr/Internet/Produits/HYPPZ/RAVAGEUR/6sitlin.htm - bit scary, though. NO, not the French - scroll down to the union jack for the English files .

I'm just wondering, reading https://www.inra.fr/Internet/Produits/HYPPZ/RAVAGEUR/6sitlin.htm, if hoeing around the peas and beans would upset their life cycle in the next few weeks --- there's still enough hungry birds around in April and May?

Back to your first post cab, - it's probably flea beetle going for your brassica. Again, with any luck the seedlings should survive - but I've read of people holding a vaseline covered piece of card over the seedlings, as they brushing plants. Beetles jump --- beetles stick to vaseline

All best - Gavin

PS I find that sowing brassicas direct in the bed under fleece cuts flea beetle damage to almost nothing

judith



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 05 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Don't flea beetles make little "shot holes" all over the leaves, rather than nibbles around the edge?

Res



Joined: 07 Apr 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 05 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Judith wrote:
Don't flea beetles make little "shot holes" all over the leaves, rather than nibbles around the edge?


They did on my cabbages and cauliflowers last year ("shot holes" that is). Ever time I walked passed they all started hooping about like tiny mad things on speed!

Richard

judith



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 05 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I was reading an American book on organic pest control last night. For one type of beetle (cucumber beetle IIRC), they suggested the following recipe:

Collect 50 or more beetles
Put in blender with 2 cups of water. Blend.
Spray on and around your cucumbers or whatever.

Apparently the beetles don't like the smell of dead beetles It occurred to me that it might be effective with vine weevils too.
OK, you might never want to use your blender again, but then again, if it works...

gavin



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 05 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Another link I find very useful is this onefrom Pesticides Action Network - Germany; https://oisat.org/.

I like the sound of Bug Juice - summat to try this year ???

All best - Gavin

Res



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Location: Allotment Shed, Harlow
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 05 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Judith wrote:
I was reading an American book on organic pest control last night. For one type of beetle (cucumber beetle IIRC), they suggested the following recipe:

Collect 50 or more beetles
Put in blender with 2 cups of water. Blend.
Spray on and around your cucumbers or whatever.

Apparently the beetles don't like the smell of dead beetles It occurred to me that it might be effective with vine weevils too.
OK, you might never want to use your blender again, but then again, if it works...


Remind me not to have dinner round yours

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