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Brownbear

Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 14929
Location: South West

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 09 1:26 pm Post subject: New rifle

I want something in .223, for both foxing and that I can use in practical rifle contests or in Service Rifle shooting. Doing so much field shooting, I find the one-round-every-three-minutes of prone target shooting a bit dull.

Will people please put me off doing this, or otherwise I shall end up with an AR-15, and win the disapproval of all target shooting purists, and probably upset vegetarians too. Vegetarians often find an AR quite upsetting for some reason.

Bebo

Joined: 21 May 2007
Posts: 12590
Location: East Sussex

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 09 1:29 pm Post subject:
Don't do it.

Brownbear

Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 14929
Location: South West

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 09 1:29 pm Post subject:

Bebo wrote:

Don't do it.

Reasons. Give me reasons.

sean
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Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 42219
Location: North Devon

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 09 1:31 pm Post subject:
Because you'll be living the dream of every teenager/social inadequate who ever bought "Guns and Ammo". And you really don't want that.

Bebo

Joined: 21 May 2007
Posts: 12590
Location: East Sussex

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 09 1:32 pm Post subject:

Brownbear wrote:

Bebo wrote:

Don't do it.

Reasons. Give me reasons.

Because I said so?

Brownbear

Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 14929
Location: South West

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 09 1:35 pm Post subject:
Sean has come up with a very good reason. But then again, I do know what an actual nude lady looks like, so there is already some considerable, demonstrable distance between me and the readership of Guns and Ammo.

richierobins

Joined: 07 Dec 2008
Posts: 80
Location: Dorset

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 09 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: New rifle

Brownbear wrote:

Always give in to temptation, lost opportunities may never be regained. Get the Armalite.

vegplot

Joined: 19 Apr 2007
Posts: 21301
Location: Bethesda, Gwynedd

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 09 1:36 pm Post subject:
AR15's are the rifle for practical rifle competitions. Bangor hosted the national comps this weekend. Well I think it was the national comps, it was a big event anyway and I didn't go even though it's my local club.

Brownbear

Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 14929
Location: South West

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 09 1:38 pm Post subject:
I had a look at the AUG-Z and it's junk. They just took out the blowback mechanism - no other redesign at all.

SheepShed

Joined: 08 Nov 2006
Posts: 332
Location: In the middle of a Welsh forest

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 09 2:14 pm Post subject:
Why not go for the AR-15 but keep the vegetarians happy with this non-threatening model ?

GENT

Joined: 03 Jun 2008
Posts: 387
Location: Student diggs- coventry.

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 09 3:24 pm Post subject:
It sounds like great fun! arn't the above firearms semi auto though? I thought that anything that wasn't rimfire or a shotgun was illegal in semi auto? And if they are not, surely a bolt action firearm will be just as fast if not faster than having to fiddle around with an AR-15 mechanism. better still, a lever action? Do it BB! go on Do IT! You'll enjoy yourself!

vegplot

Joined: 19 Apr 2007
Posts: 21301
Location: Bethesda, Gwynedd

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 09 3:43 pm Post subject:

GENT wrote:

It sounds like great fun!

arn't the above firearms semi auto though?
I thought that anything that wasn't rimfire or a shotgun was illegal in semi auto?
And if they are not, surely a bolt action firearm will be just as fast if not faster than having to fiddle around with an AR-15 mechanism. better still, a lever action?

Do it BB! go on Do IT! You'll enjoy yourself!

They're designed to be semi-auto but deactivated in that respect for the UK. It's quicker than a bolt action (with perhaps the exception of a Lee-Enfield .303) as all you need to do is slide the bolt back and let go.

KILLITnGRILLIT

Joined: 14 Sep 2006
Posts: 894
Location: Looking at a screen in the front room

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 09 10:03 pm Post subject:
Get the AR, it is both an accurate rifle and as you will be using it for Mr.Todd, then it doesn`t need to be carried far or "need" to be a looker..............accurate as an accurate thing in accurateville on accurate day. What twist rate , flavour of ammo are we going for ?? .

Brownbear

Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 14929
Location: South West

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 09 5:08 am Post subject:

The configuration I'm looking at as 1 16" or possibly 20" 1:8 barrel, in a fairly standard AR configuration, suitable for the Civilian Service Rifle contest with optics removed and the rear sight/carry handle in place. Being fairly standard, it wouldn't be one of the half-ton jobs with great iron barrels that some ARs are, so fine for the field.

For ammo, most people use 69-gr Scenars for a target load, but I'd have to experiment for a good fox load - maybe go the light/fast route with some 45-gr Noslers I've got. I might even work up a heavier load for small deer.

Southern Gun Company just over the border in Bandit Country make very good ARs and I might pop over for a look next week, if I have a free day again in this life.

KILLITnGRILLIT

Joined: 14 Sep 2006
Posts: 894
Location: Looking at a screen in the front room

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 09 8:00 am Post subject:

A friend has one and I had intended in putting a good few rounds through it at Bisley last year but unfortunately couldn`t go. He uses it for fox exclusively as he doesn`t have stalking rights and he also "rolls his own" to good effect

Nice rifle, but I still like my 595 Tikka in .222 ........nice and light, however I also have a T3 with heavy barrel mod and synth stock in 6.5

Not exactly a lightweight !

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