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Went



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 09 8:29 am    Post subject: Hard Water + Washing Machine Reply with quote
    

We currently use washer tabs to stop the heating element becoming coated in limescale/calcium deposits. I would like to stop using these - can anyone suggest anything that can be added to the wash to prevent build-up of deposits?

stumbling goat



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 09 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

the only thing i know that works is a water softener.

maybe not what you wanted to hear, sorry. have heard nothing good abbout the so called ionising reducing gizmos you can attach to the water mains that supposedly prevent calcium forming on pipes etc.

hy

Effie



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 09 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Someone I know claims vinegar is supposed to work. (Although, frankly I've come to the conclusion they are a few beans short of a casserole in general, so I don't know if there is anything in it.)

Ren



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 09 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I had also heard about white vinegar in the rinse cycle, it is also a good softener for clothes.

nettie



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 09 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Vinegar makes sense, with it being acid and the limescale being alkaline. It's listed in many old-fashioned books as a limescale remover for taps etc. Worth a try, and it will freshen the clothes too.

alice



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 09 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

We have very hard water. We have to descale the kettle every week. Even the dogs' waterbowl acquires a layer of limescale We use white vinegar to descale the kettle, shower screens, taps, showerhead, stainless steel sink, washing machine. I don't add it to the wash in the machine but every few months we put a gallon in the drum and leave it overnight. Then drain it the next day, into a bucket - not down the drain, you'll be amazed at the limescale that ends up in the bucket. We reuse the vinegar a few times. Use white vinegar - malt is smellier and there's something quite depressing about watching brown vinegar running down your tiles and pooling in your bath

dpack



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 09 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

vinegar again
the magnetic things do help but an in line ion exchange filter (flush with salt like a dishwasher filter thingy )works well but is costly to buy and run

Went



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 09 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Vinegar it is then......not sure if we can get white vinegar here but plenty of cider vinegar. ...or would that be unsuitable?

Might try the washer soak Alice but not sure how easy ours is to drain.

alice



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 09 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I expect they're all of a muchness
When you set the m/c to 'drain' (like you would after a rinse hold) drop the waste pipe into a bucket instead of letting it go down the drain.
I'm sure any sort of vinegar would do it

nettie



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 09 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

alice wrote:
We have very hard water. We have to descale the kettle every week. Even the dogs' waterbowl acquires a layer of limescale We use white vinegar to descale the kettle, shower screens, taps, showerhead, stainless steel sink, washing machine. I don't add it to the wash in the machine but every few months we put a gallon in the drum and leave it overnight. Then drain it the next day, into a bucket - not down the drain, you'll be amazed at the limescale that ends up in the bucket. We reuse the vinegar a few times. Use white vinegar - malt is smellier and there's something quite depressing about watching brown vinegar running down your tiles and pooling in your bath


Do you use the vinegar neat on the taps and stuff? I'm a bit worried cos ours are chrome and don't want it to spoil, we've been using the ecover descaler which is fairly diluted citric acid.

alice



Joined: 18 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 09 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I use it neat in a plant sprayer. I don't know what our taps are made of - they are fairly new and look like chrome to me. I haven't noticed any damage - but I hesitate to tell you to use it in case it all goes horribly wrong and you come round and let my tyres down

I've just asked OH who is the fount of all knowledge and he says vinegar won't hurt chrome...

nats



Joined: 12 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 09 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

and where, pray tell, does one get hold of huge quantities of white vinegar at a reasonable price??

alice



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 09 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

�2.80 for 5L from our local shop

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 09 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

You've got some weird specialist vinegar shop out on the islands?

alice



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 09 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Its a broad church

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