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Louisdog

Joined: 22 Mar 2005
Posts: 716
Location: South Wales

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 2:40 pm Post subject:
How about a little moderator badge on the person's profile page and on their posts, then it's clear who's a moderator without being too in your face. Cheers Alex Last edited by Louisdog on Wed Jan 06, 10 4:18 pm; edited 1 time in total

OP

Joined: 28 Jul 2006
Posts: 4661
Location: Yorkshire

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 2:43 pm Post subject:

Rob R wrote:

Is it possible to be logged in as two people at once? Could be useful if it was...

One of you is quite enough, thanks. Quality is surely better than quantity.

Brownbear

Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 14929
Location: South West

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 2:47 pm Post subject:
I think this is a complete red herring. Surely what has caused contention is not how people are badged, but what they do and how they do it? Darting off into a side alley like this is just going to leave the main problem unresolved, so that it recurs regularly in the future.

OP

Joined: 28 Jul 2006
Posts: 4661
Location: Yorkshire

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 2:53 pm Post subject:

I don't think you can be a mod and a "normal" member of the forum at the same time, any more than a policeman is ever off-duty. If you are a mod you are by definition not as free as the rest of us - you surely have to uphold both the spirit and the letter of "the rules" because ultimately you are in a position of some responsibility. Anyone who finds that too difficult (and I can see how it could be) should not be a mod IMHO.

Midland Spinner

Joined: 13 Jan 2009
Posts: 2931
Location: Under a green roof

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 3:05 pm Post subject:
Surely the "Rules" to the site basically say: Be nice / excellent to each other, stay on topic, keep it clean, use short links and keep pictures small. Discussion is fine, but if you want to argue, take it to PM. What have I missed out?

Slim

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Posts: 6631
Location: New England (In the US of A)

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 3:07 pm Post subject:

Midland Spinner wrote:

Surely the "Rules" to the site basically say:
Be nice / excellent to each other, stay on topic, keep it clean, use short links and keep pictures small. Discussion is fine, but if you want to argue, take it to PM.

What have I missed out?

At what point you qualify for banishment, and how that process is enacted. (I'm just curious)

bagpuss

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
Posts: 10507
Location: cambridge

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 3:27 pm Post subject:

Slim wrote:

Midland Spinner wrote:

At what point you qualify for banishment, and how that process is enacted. (I'm just curious)

The basic process which comes from this post
https://forum.downsizer.net/about10309.html

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In order to maintain a pleasant, productive environment in which all members of the forum feel comfortable, we ask that all posters review the site guidelines above, and with particular reference to the following points.

Do not make personal comments about other forum members.

Do not refer to old threads if they are not relevant to to the present one.

The following changes have been made to the site guidlines and moderation procedures with immediate effect.

Should a thread become unacceptably aggressive the moderators will take the following action.

1 A warning will be issued in the thread, warning the participants to cool off

2 A personal warning will be sent to individuals who do not respond to the first warning

3 Individuals will have their forum membership locked for 48 hours in the first instance.

If you notice a thread which you think requires moderation please look at the top of the section index for the list of mods and PM them. Preferably one who is on line at the time.

Nicky cigreen

Joined: 25 Jun 2007
Posts: 9891
Location: Devon, uk

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 3:28 pm Post subject:

Chez wrote:

Why not make the existing link at the top of the different forums that says 'mods' say 'forum moderators' and stick it at the top of every single page? That should cover it all, shouldn't it?

I don't see why moderators should be flagged when they are posting in a private capacity. And when they post in a public capacity, they usually preface or end the post or PM saying that that is what they are doing.

yeh like a button at the top or in the side list, that you can hit if you need to contact the mod team. That would work fine. Not that i have ever had cause to use it, but it would be nice if it was really easy to make contact.

Brownbear

Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 14929
Location: South West

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 3:32 pm Post subject:

bagpuss wrote:

Do not make personal comments about other forum members.

I think you're great. My wife has a lovely smile. I don't like Nick's taste in avatars.

(perhaps that rule could do with a bit more work)

bagpuss wrote:

Do not refer to old threads if they are not relevant to to the present one.

Relevant by what criteria, in whose opinion? I can imagine that mine and Tony Blair's opinions might be quite different about whether the Vietnam war was relevant to Afghanistan.

Not nitpicking - where you have rules with such massive scope for interpretation, you are bound to get inconsistent results from their application.

Slim

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Posts: 6631
Location: New England (In the US of A)

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 3:43 pm Post subject:
I'm getting a bit confused, but hopefully this is going in the right spot: If I were new to a forum, and had a post or a thread responded to by someone with "moderator" under their name, I'd be a bit excited and feel welcomed a bit more quickly. (like when your team captain tells you you're doing a good job) Just thought I'd try to look at the idea from another perspective

bagpuss

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
Posts: 10507
Location: cambridge

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 3:46 pm Post subject:

Slim wrote:

I'm getting a bit confused, but hopefully this is going in the right spot:

If I were new to a forum, and had a post or a thread responded to by someone with "moderator" under their name, I'd be a bit excited and feel welcomed a bit more quickly. (like when your team captain tells you you're doing a good job)

Just thought I'd try to look at the idea from another perspective

That's a nice thought,

Labelling those of us who are mods as mods the whole time might be nice. I guess for the other perspective I would worry it gives our posts an air of authority which isn't true some if not all of the time

Brownbear

Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 14929
Location: South West

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 3:48 pm Post subject:

bagpuss wrote:

I would worry it gives our posts an air of authority which isn't true some if not all of the time

I don't think you need to worry about that. An idiot with a job to do is still an idiot, and if people think someone an idiot it will be based on what they say and do, not what function they perform.

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34535
Location: Hereford

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 3:50 pm Post subject:

Brownbear wrote:

bagpuss wrote:

Do not make personal comments about other forum members.

I think you're great. My wife has a lovely smile. I don't like Nick's taste in avatars.

Right. How do I complain? I'm being victimised by another Devon inbred, just because I'm Welsh, see.

Tidy.

chez

Joined: 13 Aug 2006
Posts: 35935
Location: The Hive of the Uberbee, Quantock Hills, Somerset

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 3:51 pm Post subject:

bagpuss wrote:

[I guess for the other perspective I would worry it gives our posts an air of authority which isn't true some if not all of the time

I suppose you would still emphasise when you are speaking with your Moderator Hat on; and if people were sensitive enough to be wigged out at being argued with by a moderator, even Sans Hat, then they would just have to grit their teeth and get over it

Taking the middle ground - which is that most people are neither paranoid nor so easily intimidated, cf Becki's post upthread! - I don't think it matters too much; so long as members know how to find out who is a moderator and what is within and outside the guidelines, it won't make any difference to anything.

Jb

Joined: 08 Jun 2005
Posts: 7761
Location: 91� N

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 3:53 pm Post subject: Re: Moderator visiblitiy

bagpuss wrote:

There has been a request to increase moderator visibility. In 24 hours we are going to post a poll currently with these options

Moderator visibility
* moderators should be listed by name at the top of each forum section
* moderators should be labelled with their name and avatar in the left hand side of the forum threads
* The current moderator listing is sufficient
* Don't mind which option is picked
edit
*a forum moderator link at the top of every forum page should link to the list of moderators (suggested by chez)

This thread is to allow discussion of these options and to ask for addition options if you feel your position isn't covered

I'd want to see a list of moderators at the top of the forum and each moderator labelled as such against their name and avatar. That would have been more useful when we had forum specific moderators so that someone can see if a reply is from a forum moderator and so might be more "authoritative" an answer to your question as opposed to a reply from a moderator who just happened to be interested in the question and yet still retains the transparency that is needed.

(and yes I realise that may not fit with the current implementation of a single moderators group)

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