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vegplot



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 10 4:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Moderator visiblitiy Reply with quote
    

bagpuss wrote:
There has been a request to increase moderator visibility.


I don't think it has much merit and barely addresses any of the recent issues raised.

Mrs R



Joined: 15 Aug 2008
Posts: 7202

PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 10 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Becki wrote:
I want an option for 'I don't give a stuff either way'


ditto. don't have much of an idea of who's a mod and don't care; if I get told off by one I'll know when they pm me or say so on the forum and I'll either make my case, behave myself or stuff off.

Brownbear



Joined: 28 May 2007
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Location: South West
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 10 5:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Moderator visiblitiy Reply with quote
    

vegplot wrote:
bagpuss wrote:
There has been a request to increase moderator visibility.


I don't think it has much merit and barely addresses any of the recent issues raised.


Perhaps that's why it's being made such a song and dance about.

Treacodactyl
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Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Jumping on the bandwagon of opportunism
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 10 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Mr O wrote:
I am for both options 1 & 2 my reason being that I was pmed about a comment I made on a thread by Gil ( bless her), Iwas quite rude to her as I had no idea that she was a Mod at the time and thought she was just some busy body poking her nose in. I can't remember if I ever apologised so sorry Gil, I know it was a long time ago but it is a good example of what moderator annonimity (sp) can cause.


But why would you treat a moderator differently? People have suggested the site be self moderated without "moderators" and to some extent that happens.

I would also like to ask everyone do they think these various debates should be endless? If the majority of people vote for something in a poll will that be accepted by everyone or will there just be another debate?

cab



Joined: 01 Nov 2004
Posts: 32429

PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 10 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Treacodactyl wrote:

I would also like to ask everyone do they think these various debates should be endless? If the majority of people vote for something in a poll will that be accepted by everyone or will there just be another debate?


Thats why you have a discussion before having a poll. If you don't get the question right, you end up with an answer that isn't worth anything. Does it mean people will never quibble again? Of course not. Doesn't mean it isn't worth doing though.

Jonnyboy



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 10 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I don't think there is a large enough groundswell of opinion to make a poll worthwhile in the first place, can we have an option for that?

Midland Spinner



Joined: 13 Jan 2009
Posts: 2931
Location: Under a green roof
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 10 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

If you usually use this site by clicking the "latest posts" button you very rarely see the tops of forum pages, so you don't see the "Moderator:mods" at the top of the page. And if you don't know that you can click on it to get a list of mods then you are unlikely to try - I know it says that in the forum guidelines, and yes I read them when I joined, but I'd forgotten!

And, if you don't already know that the slightly darker green names in the "who's online" section are moderators, then you wouldn't notice it (I didn't until someone mentioned it a couple of months ago).

And if you aren't used to forums in general then you wouldn't know that moderators were there or what they do.

If moderators make themselves a bit more visible (either by making clear in the text of any "moderator" posts they make, or under their avatar or in their signature, or having a list at the top of the forum front page - I'm not fussed how they do it) then users will quickly pick up who are the mods and therefore be able to find one when they want/ need one.

Mr O



Joined: 13 Feb 2005
Posts: 5512
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 10 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Jonnyboy wrote:
I don't think there is a large enough groundswell of opinion to make a poll worthwhile in the first place, can we have an option for that?

I know lets have a poll about having a poll

Brownbear



Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 14929
Location: South West
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 10 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Mr O wrote:
Jonnyboy wrote:
I don't think there is a large enough groundswell of opinion to make a poll worthwhile in the first place, can we have an option for that?

I know lets have a poll about having a poll


Are there any Poles here? We could ask them.

OP



Joined: 28 Jul 2006
Posts: 4661
Location: Yorkshire
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 10 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Just to say, good points by Midland Spinner.

oldish chris



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 10 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Brownbear wrote:
I couldn't care less, on the grounds that I think the whole thing is a total non-issue.


I agree with BB.

Tavascarow



Joined: 06 Aug 2006
Posts: 8407
Location: South Cornwall
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 10 5:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Moderator visiblitiy Reply with quote
    

vegplot wrote:
bagpuss wrote:
There has been a request to increase moderator visibility.


I don't think it has much merit and barely addresses any of the recent issues raised.

Again couldn't agree more.
Having a list of mods at the top of the page will make reaching them easier but if they refuse to answer your question fully whats the point.

toggle



Joined: 30 Dec 2006
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Location: truro
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 10 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Brownbear wrote:
Rob R wrote:
Brownbear wrote:
Oh, if it's such a huge great deal for people, why not have one login as a moderator, and one as a poster?


Is it possible to be logged in as two people at once? Could be useful if it was...


That is more of a question for the technical bods, but one would have thought, if knowingsomeone had some mild authority scares the living daylights out of some people, then when 'fred' makes a post he's speaking as Fred, but when 'moderator 3' does there is no ambiguity.

I don't think it makes any difference, but for these delicate souls who are scared of moderators, it might be just the thing.




use 2 different browsers. eg ie and firefox, seperate cookies. works fine most places.

Mr O



Joined: 13 Feb 2005
Posts: 5512
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 10 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Treacodactyl wrote:
Mr O wrote:
I am for both options 1 & 2 my reason being that I was pmed about a comment I made on a thread by Gil ( bless her), Iwas quite rude to her as I had no idea that she was a Mod at the time and thought she was just some busy body poking her nose in. I can't remember if I ever apologised so sorry Gil, I know it was a long time ago but it is a good example of what moderator annonimity (sp) can cause.


But why would you treat a moderator differently?


That is such a naive question, I can't quite belive you asked it.
Think Referee, think Policeman.

Rob R



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 31902
Location: York
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 10 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

toggle wrote:
use 2 different browsers. eg ie and firefox, seperate cookies. works fine most places.


Thanks toggle.

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