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Treacodactyl
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Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 25795
Location: Jumping on the bandwagon of opportunism

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 6:31 pm Post subject:

Mr O wrote:

Treacodactyl wrote:

Mr O wrote:

I am for both options 1 & 2 my reason being that I was pmed about a comment I made on a thread by Gil ( bless her), Iwas quite rude to her as I had no idea that she was a Mod at the time and thought she was just some busy body poking her nose in. I can't remember if I ever apologised so sorry Gil, I know it was a long time ago but it is a good example of what moderator annonimity (sp) can cause.

But why would you treat a moderator differently?

That is such a naive question, I can't quite belive you asked it.
Think Referee, think Policeman.

Not when taken with the rest of what I said. "But why would you treat a moderator differently? People have suggested the site be self moderated without "moderators" and to some extent that happens."

I assume you're saying yes so you don't like the idea of non-moderators helping out?

Mr O

Joined: 13 Feb 2005
Posts: 5512
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 7:01 pm Post subject:

Treacodactyl wrote:

Mr O wrote:

Treacodactyl wrote:

Mr O wrote:

But why would you treat a moderator differently?

That is such a naive question, I can't quite belive you asked it.
Think Referee, think Policeman.

Your assumption is incorrect, I have no objections to members sharing their opinions openly on threads, but if a non mod were to send me an unsolicitated pm expressing those opinions, it would be a different matter, if a mod sent me the same pm I would try to respect that.

toggle

Joined: 30 Dec 2006
Posts: 11622
Location: truro

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 7:30 pm Post subject:

Rob R wrote:

toggle wrote:

use 2 different browsers. eg ie and firefox, seperate cookies. works fine most places.

Thanks toggle.

works then?

Barefoot Andrew
Downsizer Moderator

Joined: 21 Mar 2007
Posts: 22780
Location: In the 17th century

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 7:34 pm Post subject:

toggle wrote:

Rob R wrote:

toggle wrote:

use 2 different browsers. eg ie and firefox, seperate cookies. works fine most places.

Thanks toggle.

works then?

It does. If I'm testing sommat techie I'll be logged in (with Firefox) as my usual BA, and as my test account in IE.
A.

toggle

Joined: 30 Dec 2006
Posts: 11622
Location: truro

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 7:38 pm Post subject:
so there is no reason mods couldn't have a posting account and a moderator account, if that is what is wanted.

Barefoot Andrew
Downsizer Moderator

Joined: 21 Mar 2007
Posts: 22780
Location: In the 17th century

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 7:39 pm Post subject:
As discussed elsewhere it's a faff. The techies only use a separate account specifically to see how things work from a normal user's viewpoint and verify all is well. A.

toggle

Joined: 30 Dec 2006
Posts: 11622
Location: truro

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 7:43 pm Post subject:
when i've had to use 2 usernames regularly, i never found it a particular faff if I used 2 browsers.

bagpuss

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
Posts: 10507
Location: cambridge

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 7:48 pm Post subject:

toggle wrote:

when i've had to use 2 usernames regularly, i never found it a particular faff if I used 2 browsers.

I don't even use multiple browser windows let alone multiple browsers. I would rather I was always marked as a mod than have to use two accounts

Gervase

Joined: 17 Nov 2004
Posts: 8655

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 7:58 pm Post subject:

Midland Spinner makes some good points, as does Mr O.
It would be helpful to have mods visible by some tag in the avatar field because, like it or not, they do have a different status to the ordinary member - or at least they used to. There used to be many posts in the staff room reminding mods that they had to set a particular example, to avoid swearing and not become argumentative and not to let personality cloud issues. Again, this may now have changed.

nats

Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Posts: 2374
Location: Swindon but not a Swindonian

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 8:05 pm Post subject:

I like the idea of the Mods just being really clear when they are actually "moderating" but I wouldn't be averse to some of the other ideas. The key thing for me is that the various posts that have been referred to previously when people haven't known that someone is a mod should have had something in them to make that clear. Another forum I used to visit more often would have mods putting "/MOD" before a post and after.... that seemed really helpful.... and I think that this should be one of the poll options!

Midland Spinner

Joined: 13 Jan 2009
Posts: 2931
Location: Under a green roof

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 10 1:43 pm Post subject:
I voted for option 3 (both 1&2) but actually it should have been Either 1 or 2 (i.e. make them a bit more visible - I'm not that fussed how you do it) or, (no option for this in the poll) Mods to sign as moderators when they are moderating so that we all occasionally see that who the moderators are & what mods do.

bagpuss

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
Posts: 10507
Location: cambridge

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 10 2:59 pm Post subject:

Midland Spinner wrote:

I voted for option 3 (both 1&2) but actually it should have been Either 1 or 2 (i.e. make them a bit more visible - I'm not that fussed how you do it)

or, (no option for this in the poll) Mods to sign as moderators when they are moderating so that we all occasionally see that who the moderators are & what mods do.

The reason the latter option wasn't given was because that for both technical and eases sake it doesn't make sense for the moderators to maintain 2 separate forum accounts

Jb

Joined: 08 Jun 2005
Posts: 7761
Location: 91� N

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 10 3:06 pm Post subject:
Just looking at the poll. Currently 61% of votes want increased visibility in some form but, because of the way the options are split, the highest vote is "do nothing" with 39%

vegplot

Joined: 19 Apr 2007
Posts: 21301
Location: Bethesda, Gwynedd

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 10 3:14 pm Post subject:

JB wrote:

Just looking at the poll. Currently 61% of votes want increased visibility in some form but, because of the way the options are split, the highest vote is "do nothing" with 39%

Therefore, most want a change rather than doing nothing by do nothing you go against the majority.

Midland Spinner

Joined: 13 Jan 2009
Posts: 2931
Location: Under a green roof

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 10 3:38 pm Post subject:

bagpuss wrote:

Midland Spinner wrote:

The reason the latter option wasn't given was because that for both technical and eases sake it doesn't make sense for the moderators to maintain 2 separate forum accounts

I wasn't saying they should have two accounts, I was saying that if they are posting with their modding hat on they should make it clear in the text of the posting i.e.
"I've fixed your link, best wishes Bagpuss (Moderator)"
or "Hi, I'm a moderator, I've fixed your link"
or (hopefully not too often) "Hey guys This is getting a bit heated, please cool it signed Bagpuss (Moderator)"

But having re-read my post, I see that I didn't make that completely clear. I meant Sign their post, not sign in as.

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