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gardening-girl

Joined: 25 Feb 2009
Posts: 6024
Location: Somerset.

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 10 6:58 pm Post subject:
Labels alway fall off anyway That is why I took out braised red cabbage in mistake for blackberr and apple,no pudding that night!

judith

Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Posts: 22789
Location: Montgomeryshire

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 10 7:44 pm Post subject:

Jo S wrote:

Chez wrote:

Jo S wrote:

* labels are for wimps ... and them what have them

Judith will Shun you

Yes, well after I ran up her road in my nightshirt in the snow looking for my bloody dog, I think it's safe to say she undoubtedly already does

I still have fits of the vapours when I think of it now.

chez

Joined: 13 Aug 2006
Posts: 35935
Location: The Hive of the Uberbee, Quantock Hills, Somerset

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 10 7:46 pm Post subject:
Does one have a 'fit' of the vapours? I rather thought that it was an 'attack'

gil
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Joined: 08 Jun 2005
Posts: 18415

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 10 8:09 pm Post subject:

gardening-girl wrote:

That is why I took out braised red cabbage in mistake for blackberr and apple,

I have something like that in my freezer - it's dark red, has some fruit in, but could be a meat casserole. It's been there ages now, because I can't remember whethr it is savoury or sweet.

Tooth and Claw

Joined: 21 Feb 2009
Posts: 27
Location: Essex

Posted: Sun May 02, 10 7:50 am Post subject:
Depending on how many I have shot, I usually paunch them then freeze rabbits still in thier jackets. It cuts back on freezer burn, hate that!

Wood child

Joined: 08 Jun 2010
Posts: 45

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 10 8:09 pm Post subject:
Hi, I'm new on the forum. Anyways, on the subject of rabbits, will a .22 air rifle kill one? Because I can get permission to shoot them on my allotment, and just wondering if an air rifle is humane?

sean
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Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 42219
Location: North Devon

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 10 8:20 pm Post subject:
If the range is short enough and you're a good enough shot then yes.

maryf

Joined: 25 Oct 2009
Posts: 341
Location: suffolk

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 10 8:26 pm Post subject:
I'll use a .22 at a short range, but not on open land.

RichardW

Joined: 24 Aug 2006
Posts: 8443
Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 10 8:39 pm Post subject:

Wood child wrote:

Because I can get permission to shoot them on my allotment

I think that an allotment is public land so would check that the person giving your permission actually has that authority.

woodsprite

Joined: 20 Mar 2006
Posts: 2943
Location: North Herefordshire

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 10 8:53 pm Post subject:
If it's a nice young un, bunny rissotto with chive pesto is delish. We have it often at this time of year.

Shane

Joined: 31 Oct 2005
Posts: 3467
Location: Doha. Is hot.

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 10 6:57 am Post subject:

Wood child wrote:

Hi, I'm new on the forum. Anyways, on the subject of rabbits, will a .22 air rifle kill one? Because I can get permission to shoot them on my allotment, and just wondering if an air rifle is humane?

A .177 or .22 air rifle will cleanly kill a rabbit (or squirrel for that matter) inside of 35 yards, but it must be a head shot. You need to practice, practice, practice on targets at various ranges and in various weather conditions to ensure a clean kill every time.

As already pointed out, it is illegal to be in possession of an air rifle on public land without a valid reason. If you fire an air rifle on public land, you are committing a firearms offence, regardless of what permission you think you have. You can only shoot an air rifle on private land with the written permission of the land owner - which isn't necessarily the same party as the occupier (thinking of an allotment association here - suspect the land is owned by the council and hence probably classed as public).

Of course, you could trap the rabbits (again, with permission) and shoot them perfectly legally in your back garden (assuming you own rather than rent your house).

SheepShed

Joined: 08 Nov 2006
Posts: 332
Location: In the middle of a Welsh forest

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 10 2:17 pm Post subject:

Shane wrote:

As already pointed out, it is illegal to be in possession of an air rifle on public land without a valid reason. If you fire an air rifle on public land, you are committing a firearms offence, regardless of what permission you think you have. You can only shoot an air rifle on private land with the written permission of the land owner - which isn't necessarily the same party as the occupier (thinking of an allotment association here - suspect the land is owned by the council and hence probably classed as public).

The situation with controlling rabbits is slightly more complicated than that, in that a tenant's right to control rabbits is independent of the ownership of the shooting rights

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The Ground Game Act 1880 gives an occupier the right to shoot rabbits on his/her land during the day and to authorise in writing one other person to do so. That person must be a member of the occupier's household or staff, or be employed for reward.

But if Wood child is talking about a plot on an allotment society, shared by other allotment holders, then the answer is almost certainly a big no. In today's climate particularly, when the public are even more paranoid about guns than usual, it's likely to end up with the arrival of an Armed Response Unit and a lot of shouted instructions about dropping your gun and lying face down on the ground.

Wood child

Joined: 08 Jun 2010
Posts: 45

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 10 6:37 pm Post subject:
Well, that said, this isn't a public allotment, and it IS legal to carry an air rifle in public, so long as its sleeved.

SheepShed

Joined: 08 Nov 2006
Posts: 332
Location: In the middle of a Welsh forest

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 10 3:01 pm Post subject:

Wood child wrote:

Well, that said, this isn't a public allotment, and it IS legal to carry an air rifle in public, so long as its sleeved.

If it's not accessible by the public and the person giving you the permission to shoot has the right to do so, then it's probably OK.
Bear in the mind that you need to ensure that none of the pellets will leave the boundary of the land on which you have permission, and that you can't shoot within 50ft of the center of a public highway 'in such a way as to cause alarm etc.' then it should be OK.

You can get a permission slip for the landowner to fill in from the BASC website https://www.basc.org.uk/en/shooting/pest-and-predator-control/pest-control-permission-slip.cfm and it's worth looking at their code of practice for airgunners

Then there's just the little matter of getting close enough and shooting accurately enough, which like Shane said, is practice, practice, practice

RichardW

Joined: 24 Aug 2006
Posts: 8443
Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 10 3:54 pm Post subject:
And then all it still takes is some busy body to see you & phone the plod & the Armed response unit turns up "guns blazing".

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