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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 05 6:16 pm Post subject: Re: you guys all suck |
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real_eco wrote: |
this whole site is an example of pure, unadulterated hypocrisy... you talk about "an ethical approach to consumption"...? with what purpose? everyone should continue being a mindless, hoggish consumer, as long as they do it DIY-style?? consumption is the PROBLEM, morons. you talk about composting and recycling as if you actually care about sustainable living... and then i see articles about freshwater fishing and making bacon...??
there's a saying in the eco community-- "there's no such thing as a meat-eating environmentalist." meat is incredibly wasteful-- animals consume, on average, ten pounds of feed for every one pound of meat they provide (for some animals the ration is even worse-- for cows it's 16:1). this means that meat-eaters are reducing their own food supply by 90%. and that's ethical and sustainable?? and let's not forget that the practice of eating animals is responsible for more environmental degradation than any other human activity, including the burning of fossil fuels (all that urine and feces has to go somewhere). if you people are going to preach sustainability and ethics, you need to drop the disgusting hypocrisy and get rid of the pig-butchering tips. the only TRULY sustainable society will be an entirely plant-based one.
also, fooling youself into thinking you're eco-conscious just because you make your own jam is pathetic. going lo-tech and DIY is no substitute whatsoever for making the hard, unselfish choices that can truly benefit future generations. when you want a new oak desk for your study, are you going to feel good about yourself because you went out and chopped down the tree yourself, with an axe instead of a chainsaw? the tree is still gone either way, and you've got one more worthless possession that you don't need weighing you down.
the real "ethical approach" isn't to do it yourself-- it's to do without. a truly ethical and sustainable approach to life requires making choices based not on your own selfish desires, but on what's best for all life on earth. you don't get eco points for killing your own pigs and making your own bacon-- you get them for completely giving up bacon, along with all the other unhealthy garbage that you don't really NEED.
but i guess that's a little too tough for fake environmentalists like you. i think the real reason you want to be self-sufficient is because you think it might save you a few pennies. you're not motivated by ethics at all-- you're just a bunch of cheapskates. |
Who'd of thought you could get rabbies off plants? |
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