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mrsnesbitt



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 05 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

no sign of eco-whatsisname!

am i right in thinking he's not not a happy chappy.........?????

monkey1973



Joined: 17 Jan 2005
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Location: Bonnie scotland
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 05 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

He'll be waiting for the hamsters to generate enough electricity on their wheel to allow him to boot up his 'puter!

sean
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 05 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

No, that would be animal based so not allowed I'm afraid.

Treacodactyl
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 05 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

sean wrote:
No, that would be animal based so not allowed I'm afraid.


They have probably got a few hundred venus flytraps rigged up to a dynamo, or even those plants that shut their leaves when stroked.

Joey



Joined: 03 Nov 2004
Posts: 191

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 05 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Nah,
He'll be eating plenty of lentils and using the gas to power up a gas
turbine.

tahir



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Essex
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 05 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Joey wrote:
He'll be eating plenty of lentils and using the gas to power up a gas
turbine.


I could be doing that today, is there an easy collection method?

Joey



Joined: 03 Nov 2004
Posts: 191

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 05 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Yes,
Feed lentils to steer.
Cannulate steers rumen to collect methane.
Burn methane.
Cook steer
Eat beef.

tahir



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Posts: 45704
Location: Essex
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 05 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Joey wrote:
Yes,
Feed lentils to steer.
Cannulate steers rumen to collect methane.
Burn methane.
Cook steer
Eat beef.


I was talking about a personal version

Joey



Joined: 03 Nov 2004
Posts: 191

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 05 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I know you were.
But the you wouldn't enjoy the collection method as much as you would enjoy the steak

monkey1973



Joined: 17 Jan 2005
Posts: 683
Location: Bonnie scotland
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 05 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Joey wrote:

Cannulate steers rumen


And I don't even understand a word of it.

nettie



Joined: 02 Dec 2004
Posts: 5888
Location: Suffolk
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 05 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I think eco-wotsit provided enough hot air in that post as it is

tawny owl



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Location: Hampshire
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 05 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Joey wrote:
Then again we could plant woodland on all of Britain. We could all starve, but then we could all have oak desks, and oak coffins


Er no, remember - you're not allowed to chop the trees down either.

Must be tiring being that perfect.

Mr O



Joined: 13 Feb 2005
Posts: 5512
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 05 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I have never claimed to be an environmentalist, and if it involves eating lentils all day long and producing more methane than the argentinian beef population. Then bullocks to it!
Extremists are just that! Extreme! Guest's post is an example of the tolerance that extremists have. Next step animal liberation? and attacking innocent people? Unfortunatley in a free society these miscreants are allowed to be free. Perhaps in a more controled society they would not be allowed their freedom and their voice. I don't want him / her to register I just want him / her to urinate off!

Guest :-)
Guest





PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 05 6:16 pm    Post subject: Re: you guys all suck Reply with quote
    

real_eco wrote:
this whole site is an example of pure, unadulterated hypocrisy... you talk about "an ethical approach to consumption"...? with what purpose? everyone should continue being a mindless, hoggish consumer, as long as they do it DIY-style?? consumption is the PROBLEM, morons. you talk about composting and recycling as if you actually care about sustainable living... and then i see articles about freshwater fishing and making bacon...??

there's a saying in the eco community-- "there's no such thing as a meat-eating environmentalist." meat is incredibly wasteful-- animals consume, on average, ten pounds of feed for every one pound of meat they provide (for some animals the ration is even worse-- for cows it's 16:1). this means that meat-eaters are reducing their own food supply by 90%. and that's ethical and sustainable?? and let's not forget that the practice of eating animals is responsible for more environmental degradation than any other human activity, including the burning of fossil fuels (all that urine and feces has to go somewhere). if you people are going to preach sustainability and ethics, you need to drop the disgusting hypocrisy and get rid of the pig-butchering tips. the only TRULY sustainable society will be an entirely plant-based one.

also, fooling youself into thinking you're eco-conscious just because you make your own jam is pathetic. going lo-tech and DIY is no substitute whatsoever for making the hard, unselfish choices that can truly benefit future generations. when you want a new oak desk for your study, are you going to feel good about yourself because you went out and chopped down the tree yourself, with an axe instead of a chainsaw? the tree is still gone either way, and you've got one more worthless possession that you don't need weighing you down.

the real "ethical approach" isn't to do it yourself-- it's to do without. a truly ethical and sustainable approach to life requires making choices based not on your own selfish desires, but on what's best for all life on earth. you don't get eco points for killing your own pigs and making your own bacon-- you get them for completely giving up bacon, along with all the other unhealthy garbage that you don't really NEED.

but i guess that's a little too tough for fake environmentalists like you. i think the real reason you want to be self-sufficient is because you think it might save you a few pennies. you're not motivated by ethics at all-- you're just a bunch of cheapskates.


Who'd of thought you could get rabbies off plants?

tahir



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45704
Location: Essex
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 05 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Very funny

I think we've made our position clear, if the poster is genuine and wants to engage in a sensible discussion then they should sign up and we'll have a full, frank, and hopefully fair debate on this. Until then I think we'd better stop getting worked up about it.

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