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Stacey



Joined: 18 Jul 2005
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Location: Kernow
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 11 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

alice wrote:
Brownbear wrote:


Far better to put it all in the hands of the moderators. I think they should add a 'report this post' button to make the process quicker and easier.



The mods had better give up their day jobs then


Thing is, that's part of the deal with modding....

Brownbear



Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 14929
Location: South West
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 11 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Stacey wrote:

It doesn't take two to post insults. I've been remarkably restrained in the face of some pretty severe provocation IMO.


Just report it to the moderators next time.

Stacey



Joined: 18 Jul 2005
Posts: 8380
Location: Kernow
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 11 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Brownbear wrote:
Stacey wrote:

It doesn't take two to post insults. I've been remarkably restrained in the face of some pretty severe provocation IMO.


Just report it to the moderators next time.


I did that as soon as it started. Made my first 'official complaint' ever on DS.

Nell Merionwen



Joined: 02 Jun 2008
Posts: 16300
Location: Beautiful Derbyshire
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 11 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Stacey wrote:
I complained to the mods about this particular poster weeks ago. There's just vague, wafty comments like 'Please could everyone be nice'. Pointless. What's needed is for someone to say 'You - yes you there - stop being so bloody rude'

That might work a bit better


would you not consider calling another person an "annoying ignoramous" as "bloody rude"?
Personally I prefer the idea of, be excellent to eachother and leading by example.
We are all valid people with valid opinions here. Who has the right to cast judgement on another?
a little forethought and understanding of one another is not difficult and make for a much nice, more helpful, informative forum IMHO. This forum is a wonderful resource and just like in all walks of life you can get playground bullies. They can spoil things for everyone.

Stacey



Joined: 18 Jul 2005
Posts: 8380
Location: Kernow
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 11 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Nell wrote:
Stacey wrote:
I complained to the mods about this particular poster weeks ago. There's just vague, wafty comments like 'Please could everyone be nice'. Pointless. What's needed is for someone to say 'You - yes you there - stop being so bloody rude'

That might work a bit better


would you not consider calling another person an "annoying ignoramous" as "bloody rude"?
Personally I prefer the idea of, be excellent to eachother and leading by example.
We are all valid people with valid opinions here. Who has the right to cast judgement on another?
a little forethought and understanding of one another is not difficult and make for a much nice, more helpful, informative forum IMHO. This forum is a wonderful resource and just like in all walks of life you can get playground bullies. They can spoil things for everyone.


I think you've misunderstood.

Nell Merionwen



Joined: 02 Jun 2008
Posts: 16300
Location: Beautiful Derbyshire
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 11 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Stacey wrote:
Nell wrote:
Stacey wrote:
I complained to the mods about this particular poster weeks ago. There's just vague, wafty comments like 'Please could everyone be nice'. Pointless. What's needed is for someone to say 'You - yes you there - stop being so bloody rude'

That might work a bit better


would you not consider calling another person an "annoying ignoramous" as "bloody rude"?
Personally I prefer the idea of, be excellent to eachother and leading by example.
We are all valid people with valid opinions here. Who has the right to cast judgement on another?
a little forethought and understanding of one another is not difficult and make for a much nice, more helpful, informative forum IMHO. This forum is a wonderful resource and just like in all walks of life you can get playground bullies. They can spoil things for everyone.


I think you've misunderstood.



Bernie66



Joined: 14 Jan 2005
Posts: 13967
Location: Eastoft
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 11 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Take the moral high ground, the view is great from up here.I get dizzy from my fear of heights but I'm getting used to it, come on up.
The air is cleaner

Brownbear



Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 14929
Location: South West
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 11 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Nell wrote:
Who has the right to cast judgement on another?


Judges. And magistrates, and juries. And moderators.

Stacey



Joined: 18 Jul 2005
Posts: 8380
Location: Kernow
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 11 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Nell wrote:
Stacey wrote:
Nell wrote:
Stacey wrote:
I complained to the mods about this particular poster weeks ago. There's just vague, wafty comments like 'Please could everyone be nice'. Pointless. What's needed is for someone to say 'You - yes you there - stop being so bloody rude'

That might work a bit better


would you not consider calling another person an "annoying ignoramous" as "bloody rude"?
Personally I prefer the idea of, be excellent to eachother and leading by example.
We are all valid people with valid opinions here. Who has the right to cast judgement on another?
a little forethought and understanding of one another is not difficult and make for a much nice, more helpful, informative forum IMHO. This forum is a wonderful resource and just like in all walks of life you can get playground bullies. They can spoil things for everyone.


I think you've misunderstood.




It's easily done

Nell Merionwen



Joined: 02 Jun 2008
Posts: 16300
Location: Beautiful Derbyshire
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 11 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Brownbear wrote:
Nell wrote:
Who has the right to cast judgement on another?


Judges. And magistrates, and juries. And moderators.

surely the very word moderator suggests arbitration and impartiality, not judgement?

Brownbear



Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 14929
Location: South West
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 11 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Nell wrote:
Brownbear wrote:
Nell wrote:
Who has the right to cast judgement on another?


Judges. And magistrates, and juries. And moderators.

surely the very word moderator suggests arbitration and impartiality, not judgement?


Given that they decide if someone has transgressed the rules, and punish them accordingly, I think it is safe to say that there is a degree of judgement involved. Judges, juries and magistrates are also impartial, or they are supposed to be, yet nevertheless they pass judgement.

The point about impartiality is that it should be fair judgement, being impartial doesn't mean deciding that everyone is in the right.

baldybloke



Joined: 24 May 2008
Posts: 1388
Location: Wiltshire
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 11 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I can understand why Stacey is upset. I saw the remarks and thought that they were unnecessary and offensive.
Even though I detest football (sorry if this upsets anyone) maybe a yellow/red card system is needed. Wherein if a complaint has been received by a Moderator, then the offending poster in cautioned. If they persist then they get suspended.

Last edited by baldybloke on Mon Feb 28, 11 6:12 pm; edited 1 time in total

Bernie66



Joined: 14 Jan 2005
Posts: 13967
Location: Eastoft
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 11 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

baldybloke wrote:
I can understand why Stacey is upset. I saw the remarks and thought that they were unnecessary and offensive.
Even though I detest football (sorry if this upsets anyone) maybe a yellow/red card system is needed. Wherein if a compaint has been received by a Moderator, then the offending poster in cautioned. If they persist then they get suspended.


A valid complaint!!

Two things, firstly, it's the mods "ball" and they can tell someone they're not playing if they want to without explanation if they choose and secondly noone has to play with their ball if they don't want to.
There's only so much time and effort, deliberation and discussion that can go on over every whinge or genuine complaint.

I'd be more ruthless myself, speaking from my high ground. It's cloudy up here






Brownbear



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Location: South West
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 11 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

As well as the Naughty Corner, perhaps there should be a new board called 'The Vicar's tea-party' in which only the politest conversation is allowed.

"Do have another pork scratching, look there's one with no hairs on it," all that sort of thing.

Bernie66



Joined: 14 Jan 2005
Posts: 13967
Location: Eastoft
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 11 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Brownbear wrote:
As well as the Naughty Corner, perhaps there should be a new board called 'The Vicar's tea-party' in which only the politest conversation is allowed.

"Do have another pork scratching, look there's one with no hairs on it," all that sort of thing.


My high ground would welcome such people, come on over old chap. Maybe the girls will follow

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