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Nick

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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 11 7:34 am Post subject:

RichardW wrote:

Hairyloon wrote:

And then of course, there are crayfish...

I think that the EA have now also started charging for a licence for the non native species.

https://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/homeandleisure/recreation/fishing/119096.aspx

There's no hint of that here. Are you sure?

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 11 7:46 am Post subject:

Nick wrote:

RichardW wrote:

Hairyloon wrote:

And then of course, there are crayfish...

I think that the EA have now also started charging for a licence for the non native species.

https://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/homeandleisure/recreation/fishing/119096.aspx

There's no hint of that here. Are you sure?

It's just a consultation at the moment, charges are proposed to be introduced next year.

https://consult.environment-agency.gov.uk/portal/ho/fish/auths

�40 a year rising to �60 in 2014.

Nick

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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 11 7:53 am Post subject:
Reckon forty quids worth it if you catch them in any number.

Hairyloon

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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 11 8:16 am Post subject:

Nick wrote:

Reckon forty quids worth it if you catch them in any number.

They are vermin are they not?
Surely they should be encouraging people to catch them?

Nick

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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 11 9:10 am Post subject:

You can argue any side, of course. People are catching these and selling them on, presumably making reasonable money from it. Clearly, they're all paying full tax on these, but is it unreasonable to try and monitor the numbers of this invasive species, study their progress, establish who and why is catching them, and both make a charge for the cost of doing this, and recoup some of the tax payers' money?

�40 won't buy much, and seems a bargain for a year of unlimited fishing rights, if you like crayfish.

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 11 9:25 am Post subject:

If you look at the document the charging structure doesn't seem that fair, hopefully it'll change before it's introduced. Current proposals means someone with one trap fishing a couple of times a year would pay the same as someone with 10 traps fishing every day. At least they do charge more for traps in excess of 10, but �70 for 20 or �160 for 500 still doesn't make �60 for 1 sound good value.

Nick

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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 11 9:45 am Post subject:
True enough, depends if it's an admin charge, or a quota based charge. I guess that's why it's a consultation.

Hairyloon

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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 11 10:02 am Post subject:
Is the proposed charge for traps? If so, just stick to the piece of string...

Nick

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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 11 11:23 am Post subject:

It's for any methods other than a 'rod and line'.

The charging structure does have varying fairness, I grant you, but it's not �60 for one; it's �40 for up to ten next year, rising to �60 for up to ten in 2014. These are for a whole year's fishing.

I guess they have to have a minimum charge, to cover the admin costs, and that's always going to hit the low end.

Still, it's open for consultation until 21st October, so we have a chance to have our say.

rachelk

Joined: 25 Aug 2011
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 11 8:01 pm Post subject:
i'm happy with string and garden cane to give myself a free meal one a week. if i can dangle it now and again when i'm out for a walk by the river. not in it to make money.

boisdevie1

Joined: 11 Aug 2006
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Location: Lancaster

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 12 11:46 am Post subject:
Illegal on fresh water https://www.songofthepaddle.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?26356-The-sweetest-handline-you-ever-saw!-(hobo-fishing-wood-porny)

tahir

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Location: Essex

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 12 12:02 pm Post subject:

Jamanda wrote:

Just check that the area has the right kind of crayfish. It is illegal to catch the endangered native ones.

And it's illegal to transport the other ones, most advice is not to catch them:

https://www.invasivespeciesscotland.org.uk/invasive_non_native_species/north_american_signal_crayfish.asp

I believe a license anywhere in the UK

pricey

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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 12 11:13 pm Post subject:
We get them by net when trout fishing, cause there are so many of them

Hairyloon

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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 12 12:44 am Post subject:

tahir wrote:

Jamanda wrote:

Just check that the area has the right kind of crayfish. It is illegal to catch the endangered native ones.

I believe a license anywhere in the UK

Last I checked, a license is required to trap, and this is largely to protect otters, etc from accidental entrapment.
If you catch them without a trap, you don't need the license.

Hairyloon

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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 12 12:44 am Post subject:

boisdevie1 wrote:

Illegal on fresh water
https://www.songofthepaddle.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?26356-The-sweetest-handline-you-ever-saw!-(hobo-fishing-wood-porny)

Why illegal?

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