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Green Man

Joined: 23 Jul 2006
Posts: 5272
Location: Rural Scotland.

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 11 10:31 am Post subject:
It isn't going to happen, but the consumer could opt in or out as they pleased. nobody would be loosing their rights. It would have been a gamble, a bit of a thrill. Some peole love saving money, this could have been a way. But hey-ho the days of a seller and buyer being able to barter their own deals are long gone. But the booming black market, that is another story.

bagpuss

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
Posts: 10507
Location: cambridge

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 11 10:35 am Post subject:

Green Man wrote:

It isn't going to happen, but the consumer could opt in or out as they pleased. nobody would be loosing their rights. It would have been a gamble, a bit of a thrill. Some peole love saving money, this could have been a way. But hey-ho the days of a seller and buyer being able to barter their own deals are long gone. But the booming black market, that is another story.

You can still barter when making purchased or sales but you can't remove someone's statutory rights as a condition of being able to barter

Green Man

Joined: 23 Jul 2006
Posts: 5272
Location: Rural Scotland.

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 11 10:40 am Post subject:
A seller should be able to offer tailored terms if both parties agree. You can opt for an extended warranty, why not a shortned warranty? Last edited by Green Man on Thu Nov 10, 11 10:45 am; edited 1 time in total

Hairyloon

Joined: 20 Nov 2008
Posts: 15433
Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 11 10:40 am Post subject:

bagpuss wrote:

You can still barter when making purchased or sales but you can't remove someone's statutory rights as a condition of being able to barter

You can reasonably negotiate them downwards.

Kenworth

Joined: 04 Apr 2011
Posts: 855
Location: Michigan

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 11 10:56 am Post subject:

Most used goods over here are sold without any warantees. Sold as is, where is. The exception may be with an appliance or auto that someone has worked on to fix something that has wore out. Sometimes a store or seller will offer a short warantee.

Most stores that sell used items have a posted "no returns" policy. Of course, this is a store by store policy.

New items usually fall under written warantees that come with packaging. Many stores selling new goods offer a 30 day money back "guarantee" if an item malfunctions. They simply excange the item.

There are different rules, state by state, when it comes to pets. I'm not too clear on most of them.

What doesn't make sense to me, (fills the government coffers though) is that a sales tax is always collected. This sales tax is collected when an item is new and when it is resold.

Sometimes you will see an ad that states that "we'll pay the sales tax for you" in an ad. I am assuming that the seller does pay the sales tax, only raises the prices to cover what the lost revenue may be. This is usually a sepcial however, not an ongoing sale.

aura

Joined: 11 Nov 2011
Posts: 4

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 11 8:59 am Post subject:
I agree with Kenworth. This is also the position which I have. If you buy something used and second hand, you have no guarantee at all. Maybe some second hand shops have warantees, but definitely not a normal private seller. In many stores you get a good guarantee, at least you get a coupon back. If you complain a lot there might be a chance to get the money back as well.

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