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Hairyloon

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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 13 6:33 am Post subject:

Mistress Rose wrote:

I have seen ergot and no, no chance of it being in the mould in the house. It looks like a black grain on the wheat or barley.

Ergot is not the only mould that has psychoactive effects was what I was thinking.

Woodburner

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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 13 7:25 pm Post subject:
Would a topical application of the sap of certain poppies have any effect? I presume the 'active ingredient' can be absorbed through the skin, not just mucous membranes? Or does it actually need heat to make it?

Mutton

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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 13 2:41 pm Post subject:

Yours is solved - as in seems to be parsnips.

Just to say hogweed + sunshine gives foul blisters.

I get rashes off cypressus hedges. I get a rash off hay making - but that is the sharp ends of the stalks in the bales on my forearms as I move bales.

Delusion plants - fly agaric - the little red toadstool with white spots. Wrong time of year for it. Reputed to be what made beserkers beserk. Crumbled into a bowl of milk it is said to kill flies (no idea why milk not water). It is poisonous in anything more than a little and have no idea how "little".

toggle

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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 13 3:19 pm Post subject:

Mutton wrote:

Delusion plants - fly agaric - the little red toadstool with white spots. Wrong time of year for it. Reputed to be what made beserkers beserk. Crumbled into a bowl of milk it is said to kill flies (no idea why milk not water). It is poisonous in anything more than a little and have no idea how "little".

milk may be an oil soluble component.

The traditional method of taking it to get delusions was to feed it to the village idiot, stand back while he had a really crappy time of it, then collect his piss to drink. he detoxified it so the 'normal' poeple could have a fun trip.

the more common version now is to cook it first. A half a cooked cap isn't going to kill you and you might actually feel good from that, after the projectile vomiting has stopped. I personally wouldn't bother again, unless you have a fetish for puking

Hairyloon

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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 13 3:54 pm Post subject:

toggle wrote:

The traditional method of taking it to get delusions was to feed it to the village idiot, stand back while he had a really crappy time of it, then collect his piss to drink. he detoxified it so the 'normal' poeple could have a fun trip.

Or reindeer, in preference to the village idiot. Harder to come by in this country though.

NorthernMonkeyGirl

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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 13 4:45 pm Post subject:
https://www.thepoisongarden.co.uk/atoz.htm ??

Mutton

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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 13 8:55 pm Post subject:
Trying to remember which plant it was that "witches" painted on the soles of their feet so they could "fly". Might have been agaric, not sure. Hadn't heard the village idiot/reindeer version before. Incidentally, having done it, cat mint is a perfectly OK herb in a stew with zero affect on people. I don't recall the cats rushing into the kitchen to roll in the stew either......

jamanda
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 13 9:21 pm Post subject:
I don't suppose there's any point in me pointing out out that Fly agaric aren't plants.

Mutton

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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 13 9:36 pm Post subject:
Neither is ergot Anyway, they grow and they're not animals or insects or arachnids or birds or mammals or fish or whatever sharks are that isn't fish or reptiles. I took HL question about plants to mean "anything that might be growing in the allotment"

Hairyloon

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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 13 12:53 am Post subject:

Mutton wrote:

whatever sharks are that isn't fish or reptiles.

Elasmobranchs.

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I took HL question about plants to mean "anything that might be growing in the allotment"

Strange, that ios what I meant it to mean.

Mutton

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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 13 8:54 pm Post subject:

Hairyloon wrote:

Mutton wrote:

whatever sharks are that isn't fish or reptiles.

Elasmobranchs.

I thought I knew what sharks were and had forgotten. That tells me I totally didn't know.

Hairyloon

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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 13 9:19 pm Post subject:

Mutton wrote:

Hairyloon wrote:

Mutton wrote:

whatever sharks are that isn't fish or reptiles.

Elasmobranchs.

I thought I knew what sharks were and had forgotten. That tells me I totally didn't know.

Were you thinking of Chondrichthyes?
They include the Elasmobranchii and Holocephali.

NorthernMonkeyGirl

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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 13 9:40 pm Post subject:

Hairyloon wrote:

Mutton wrote:

Hairyloon wrote:

Mutton wrote:

whatever sharks are that isn't fish or reptiles.

Elasmobranchs.

I thought I knew what sharks were and had forgotten. That tells me I totally didn't know.

Were you thinking of Chondrichthyes?
They include the Elasmobranchii and Holocephali.

You're making my zoology degree twitch in a Frankenstein-esque manner

jamanda
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 13 9:53 pm Post subject:
I like a bit of taxonomy. I'll quite often wander off in to Latin given a field and a bit of encouragement. (My sixth form know just how to annoy me; "it's just grass Miss")

NorthernMonkeyGirl

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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 13 9:55 pm Post subject:
I like feeling clever when I recognise what some of the Latin means

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