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chez

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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 16 11:50 am Post subject:
Can you physically unplug or disconnect the boiler? (I realise I'm agreeing with Hairyloon, here, but this is FACTS not ideas )

Hairyloon

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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 16 11:50 am Post subject:

Nick wrote:

Hairyloon wrote:

What else is on the circuit with the boiler?
You could switch off that circuit for a while and see if that makes a difference?
It is possible that the boiler thing is just a coincidence.

God knows. The house is sprawling, electrically, with various add ons and extensions and lights run from socket circuits. I've even got a socket next to the bog. It's a part of my life I just ignore.

Then perhaps just pull the fuse for that circuit and see what happens...
Check that freezers and other essentials are still on, and plug them in elsewhere for a bit if they aren't.

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
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Location: Hereford

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 16 11:53 am Post subject:

Chez wrote:

Can you physically unplug or disconnect the boiler?

(I realise I'm agreeing with Hairyloon, here, but this is FACTS not ideas

)

Only by flicking the switch to it. Or finding and pulling the fuse. And with no lights on it, no.

chez

Joined: 13 Aug 2006
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 16 11:56 am Post subject:
I like problem solving electrics, it's binary.

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
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Location: Hereford

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 16 1:04 pm Post subject:
Three kettle boils. Three blown rcds. Off to Dixons. Via the pub.

dpack

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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 16 1:39 pm Post subject:

Nick wrote:

God knows. The house is sprawling, electrically, with various add ons and extensions and lights run from socket circuits. I've even got a socket next to the bog. It's a part of my life I just ignore.

that is the reason to get it all done properly then you can ignore it in almost complete confidence of it's safety, it is possible some of it is ok but there is a very high probability that quite a bit isnt.

seemingly random rcd trips are a good thing as they have protected you from a shock or a fire but to rely on the rcd is short term especially as some of those circuits might not even be routed through it.

professional assessment and quotes for remedial/replacement works is the best option.

one of the "best" i have found was bare conductor in wooden trunking (circa 1895) for a lighting circuit that was feeding various plug sockets. i still dont understand how that hadn�t caught fire as there was a fan heater plugged into it and no rcd as the consumer unit was a fuse wire type. the old 1920's rubber covered wires are quite interesting as well.

one piece at a time = a whole world of issues.

Ty Gwyn

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Location: Lampeter

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 16 1:43 pm Post subject:

Nick wrote:

Three kettle boils. Three blown rcds.

Off to Dixons. Via the pub.

Did you try each kettle boil at a different socket?

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 16 2:18 pm Post subject:

Ty Gwyn wrote:

Nick wrote:

Three kettle boils. Three blown rcds.

Off to Dixons. Via the pub.

Did you try each kettle boil at a different socket?

Indeed, ideally in the socket if you have a cooker switch as that should be on its own circuit.

The kettle tripping out your RCD doesn't necessarily mean its faulty but could mean the circuit its on has a small leak and the amount of power the kettle draws is enough for the leak to cause the RCD to trip.

If your new kettle causes a trip then it's probably the house wiring.

Nick

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Location: Hereford

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 16 3:28 pm Post subject:
I didn't try different sockets. Why? Because I am an idiot. Still. I have a shiny new kettle, a filter coffee machine, and I am outside a large carvery lunch and two beers. I think the next thing to test is the sofa. See if that does anything.

chez

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Location: The Hive of the Uberbee, Quantock Hills, Somerset

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 16 3:36 pm Post subject:
Never snipe at me for being an impulse purchaser again.

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
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Location: Hereford

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 16 3:48 pm Post subject:

Chez wrote:

Never snipe at me for being an impulse purchaser again.

I've been thinking of getting all of the above for a while.

And I did think of you. They have a kettle that comes with wifi connectivity and an app.

No, I didn't.

chez

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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 16 4:00 pm Post subject:
Ooooh, really? quickly glances at Dixon's website

Nick

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Location: Hereford

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 16 4:05 pm Post subject:
https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/smarter-household-appliances/small-kitchen-appliances/kettles/336_3156_30244_5363_xx/xx-criteria.html

wellington womble

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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 16 4:23 pm Post subject:

Chez wrote:

I like problem solving electrics, it's binary.

Come and solve mine, then. I keep tripping over the bloody extension leads!

Does that kettle mean one can remotely put the kettle on!?

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 16 4:27 pm Post subject:

wellington womble wrote:

Does that kettle mean one can remotely put the kettle on!?

If you're Nick it means you can remotely trip your electrics.

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