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dpack

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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 20 3:13 pm Post subject:

i vaguely know which trees i took scions from, what survived is a bit of a mystery

i spose as none has found a decent "baptist" so far, and we have asked some hardcore experts, knowing what they are called is less important than preserving the genetics

a new name, if necessary, is fine by me, the little russety one is an ace apple.
i have never seen or eaten it before i found that tree but it has quality that is unusual among its brethren.
that one is a priority for next winter although it may be the one on the left

self slap
carpentry meets surgery and icu nursing is ok but can improve, using labels needs attention

dpack

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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 21 6:28 am Post subject:
started 2 years ago is looking rather poorly, the rootstock stem died off above the graft and seems to be dying down past it two older ones look good, one of them has two grafts of what look like different scions one of those has just thrown a flower which is a bit late but indicates it is healthy the other is still settling until i get fruit i have no idea what they are

Mistress Rose

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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 21 8:34 am Post subject:
I suppose if you were really organised, you would have made a not of them. Still, that means being super organised, which very few people are.

dpack

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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 21 9:18 am Post subject:
these are ones with no names, i know where they came from sorry best i can do having 2 or maybe 3 old and unnamed genetics is a start, i will try to do better

Mistress Rose

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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 21 8:15 am Post subject:
That's pretty good as it will keep the old varieties going. Can you get them identified? Brogdale used to be able to do this, but not sure if they still do. Who knows; you might have a newly identified variety. An unknown crab apple was found growing near us and found to be a new variety. It was named after one of the local country park rangers.

dpack

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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 21 8:40 am Post subject:
they had no idea of a name for the russet one, the others they have not seen yet one flower is promising(i typed that as pommacing to start wih )

dpack

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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 21 8:41 am Post subject:
ps as they derive from old orchard stock it seems likely they have a name but we do not know it

dpack

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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 22 10:05 pm Post subject:
hello again this is a bit less than organized however 2 or 3 stocks with grafts have got fruit they are a bit tangled and one stock certainly has two grafts at this stage it looks like a big green one, a reddish one and a russet i am hoping it is the dormouse russet with no name will have a closer look with steps

Mistress Rose

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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 22 6:58 am Post subject:
Good they have all taken. Why it it a dormouse russet?

dpack

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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 22 12:47 pm Post subject:
from the old hospital orchard by the doormouse pub

Mistress Rose

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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 22 7:00 am Post subject:
I see.

dpack

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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 22 5:30 am Post subject:

the surviving grafts have given fruit

one is a small russet eater, the dormouse genes iirc, crisp, deep flavour, a bit rhino skinned
the other is a big, fluffy type, good flavour, sweet, nice eater, probably ideal for fast cook as well

both are no names so far, the folk at "apple world" did not know from MK1 eyeball of tree and fruit
if i can keep them going, i might pay for dna testing to see if they are listed
both are nice and should be preserved if possible

tt brought me a tom putts from one of the trees i have nursed a little

smallish crops this year, in size and numbers, good quality though

they are commercially available and a good tree for kitchen orchards so i have not tried grafting those (and the nursed ones will probably outlast me)

commercial apples as found in most shops are a shameful exercise in marketing and logistics rather than splendid fruit

dpack

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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 22 5:33 am Post subject:
ps if the russet has no name i may call it dormouse rhino, the skin needs a good blade or paleo teeth

Mistress Rose

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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 22 8:13 am Post subject:
Sounds an interesting name. I am glad to say the place I buy my fruit and veg is currently going through the early apples and also has a good range of plums. There were greengages, two plum varieties and damsons on offer last week as well as 4 varieties of early to main crop apples.

dpack

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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 22 6:50 pm Post subject:
i cooked one of the type bigger ones, stored ok for a while greasy coat is good for that lots of sugar in the fruit, very fragrant, nice texture profile no idea what it is but it is a good un, as single ingredient cooked in a little water tis ace these trees need planting out

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