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dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 21 8:59 am Post subject:

as i am now in london

i might be best placed to answer that

cultures are very variable even within a general geographic location

2018 show i am not sure which year or where but Ki's gt nephew got a gong one year at a similar event

other kennels are available

most of Ki's ancestor names were arabic ones

iirc there is mention of a well-known prophet, blessed be his kennel, hunting with hounds

plenty of poetry and art that describes the relationship between hound and human for over a thousand years

pictures of them on pottery for around 8000 years

etc

for a post norman local example, horses are "noble" pigs are "swine"
cultural propaganda is a powerful tool.

a population without effective canines has no intruder alarms and less means of having a decent meal(see forestry laws etc)

the elite had ace hounds(see the wotsit hunting tapestry and many illustrations)
ps there is a strong saluki theme in west european, posh, hunting hounds after the crusades, serf scum might get to keep a ratting terrier

dpack

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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 21 4:03 pm Post subject:

back to the vpn stuff

it may have had issues with secured but regular stuff thinking i had suddenly moved in a suspicious way, sorted with passwords and secondary to a phone codes after a few goes

that is new but things have been updating as well

i am daft, always a good un with passwords and stuff, i can hide things from myself and step on them while looking

afaik the vpn has not caused any problems too tricky for a fool to mend

Shane

Joined: 31 Oct 2005
Posts: 3467
Location: Doha. Is hot.

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 21 5:19 am Post subject:

sgt.colon wrote:

Thanks Shane. I had to Google, haram. I wonder why they don't like dogs?

They say it's because their saliva is dirty. If you view their guide book as a desert survival guide for warring tribes (a thing I would never, of course, suggest), a blanket instruction that dogs have dirty saliva and should therefore be feared and avoided would be a good way of preventing a rabies epidemic in the days before innoculation.

As dpack says, the elites rather enjoyed racing and hunting with dogs, but presumably they kept a disease-free stock of what would have passed for pedigrees at the time (much like they kept their stores full of flat-nosed beef, hence the strong "don't eat it" messaging to the have-nots in that book and a certain other).

Shane

Joined: 31 Oct 2005
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Location: Doha. Is hot.

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 21 5:21 am Post subject:

dpack wrote:

afaik the vpn has not caused any problems too tricky for a fool to mend

I used to grapple with passwords - it's tough to make them difficult to crack but also unique and not written down when you carry the number of online accounts modern life requires of you to merely function. LastPass (or similar) was the answer for me - blimmin' marvellous, and very secure.

dpack

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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 21 7:50 am Post subject:

i will have a look at last pass, at the mo many of mine are saved by firefox(the less than dangeroos ones) and my single point is that.

most of those are firefox generated random ones for logging on rather than securing money or id and as such there are no issues with one key fits all doors

i do not do internet banking as such, i have"accounts"with a couple of "shops" but they attach to a small shopping bank acc. so present a minimal risk which is further minimized by a secondary check by text if unusual or out of context ie different delivery and card addresses, sending pressies can be frustratingly complex:roll:

a few small inconveniences are a comfort as i know that the guards are alert.

re the hound thing, some of the poems that would be contemporary to or just after the blessed kennel express the respect and love from both sides of the man/dog equations
funny as well, the hounds were just as "royal" as the best ones are now

re the mutts are haram as their saliva is unclean, i would have a similar attitude to "rough mutts" or "strangers" or even my ones if there had been an "incident" in a place with endemic rabies, totally makes sense.
it does not make sense to extrapolate to all dogs are dangeroos

plenty of stories of man lost in desert, hounds rescue him without being asked to
village dies of plague, no survivors apart from the saluki, her puppies, the baby who was a toddler when found 4 months after the visitation, and the sheep which the dog took out to graze every morning and brought back in the evening. the mutt had not harvested sheep, there were more of them, she hunted while the sheep grazed

if you get a saluki as a slave you will soon have a new master and it will be wearing your best cloak
that might scan better in the original language, but it gives a hint of how well they had us trained over a thousand years ago

only on DS do we get internet security and privacy combined with a cultural history of mutts

Shane

Joined: 31 Oct 2005
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Location: Doha. Is hot.

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 21 8:57 am Post subject:

Such discussions are certainly a welcome discussion from an otherwise fairly mundane kind of day

I had all my passwords stored in a browser, too (G******

) but was very aware that a single leak would leave me heavily compromised, especially for sites without TFA.

LastPass has a few advantages - the passwords are stored as a locally-encrypted file that isn't available to LastPass themselves, it can generate random passwords up to 99 characters long (64 for IOS app), it won't let you log on from a different machine without emailing you for permission, it has its own authenticator app (so you don't have to rely on MS/Google). The free version lets you install and use it on one device, for $3 a month you can install on unlimited devices (1 account) and for $4 a month you can add family members. Worth checking out the free version - it's quite addictive running the security challenge and toughening up the passwords it identifies as weaker.

dpack

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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 21 9:59 am Post subject:
that seems a good idea, i wonder if i am soon to lock myself out of everything i have keys for

Shane

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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 21 12:08 pm Post subject:
Still better than handing all the keys to someone else, in my opinion

dpack

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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 21 3:39 pm Post subject:
yep. Thanks i will try the free version on stuff that does not matter before i jump in.

jema
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 21 6:21 am Post subject:
bitwarden is more opensource and free. Now my choice in place of lastpass.

dpack

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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 21 7:29 am Post subject:

ooh thanks

password wars would be a rather nerdy gameshow

a while back a chum who does pooter security for a living cracked my "random"password in about a minute
then he secured the machine well beyond the criminal/commercial level intrusions he knew of

this is for securing "normal" stuff and to protect against intrusions to gain data or control

any sensitive data, such as stuff that would be covered by gdpr, etc, gets encrypted on the drive and is fairly secure

a machine online has vulnerabilities and i do not want another angry monkey photo to be able to deliver a payload

defence in depth is a decent strategy for pooters so long as blue on blue tangles and unpleasantness are avoided

dpack

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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 21 7:58 am Post subject:
this machine is for photos, art, web life, sometimes printing council stuff if their stuff does not work, umm, shopping etc it is not a research machine

Slim

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
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Location: New England (In the US of A)

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 21 2:42 pm Post subject:
I use LastPass. But I'm also aware that they may be monitoring and monetizing all of my online activity

Shane

Joined: 31 Oct 2005
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Location: Doha. Is hot.

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 21 4:16 am Post subject:
Hmm - I hadn't twigged that particular aspect.

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