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Went



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 11 8:31 am    Post subject: Dioxins in feed.....good grief Reply with quote
    

Even more reason to get myself some egg layers...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12133361

Bodger



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 11 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

If we ever needed any encouragement to grow as much of our own food as possible for our famillies, then this latest food scandal certainly enforces that ethos.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12133402

Knowing the providence of the food that you're eating, IMO isn't a luxury, its an absolute necessity. Few people are in a position where they have the time or the space to grow all their own food, so this makes knowing how and where your food is grown even more important. Lets just hope that the polluted eggs don't lead to any health problems.
This is yet another example in a long line, of the trust between producer and consumer being broken.

Here's a question that I've been contemplating. I have a free range laying flock of chickens running on grass in the idyllic setting of our orchard. Just as chickens should be kept you may think. They enjoy life and produce beautiful eggs and enjoy as natural a life as I can make it. They are fed on whole grain and layers pellets but can I trust big business to produce the pellet part of the ration ? To be honest, I'm not so sure that I can. They've let us down before of course.
I'm quite sure that the vast majority of the farmers who fed contaminated rations to their cattle prior to BSE, didn't realise that they were actually feeding their cows dead sheep bits. It makes you think doesn't it? Why should we trust our British animal food manufacturers any more or less than the German farmers did theirs ?

Went



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 11 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Agree with you 100% Bodger. KNowing where your food comes from and what processes are involved is priority of us. Like you I doubt the integrity of feed producers....profit, profit, profit. I suspect welfare is secondary.

I have read of instances where commercial animal feeds have been analysed and they have found things like microchips, plastic, leather....especially in the pet food industry, so I doubt it is much different in other animal food industries. I don't think for one moment they are all deliberately including 'toxic' ingredients but are they too bothered about tracking the provenance of ingredients they buy?...I doubt it.

boisdevie1



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 11 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Gosh what a surprise - not

gz



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 11 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

One wonders how the dioxins got into the feed?

Air contamination?

Went



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 11 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

boisdevie1 wrote:
Gosh what a surprise - not


You say that but stories like this do surprise me. We are talking about everyday folks who work in these industries, people like us, not some two headed monster who is out to poison the world. It surprises me that inadequate safeguards are taken that result in industrial oils being used in feed and it surprises me that more 'joe public' workers don't bring these diabolical practices out into the open.

Went



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 11 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

gz wrote:
One wonders how the dioxins got into the feed?

Air contamination?


"The origin of the contamination has been traced to the distributor Harles und Jentzsch in the northern state of Schleswig Holstein, where oils intended for use in bio-fuels were accidentally distributed for animal feed."

gz



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 11 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

apparently from fat in the feed- am finding out more if I can

gz



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 11 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

cross posting!

So what happens to the dioxins when the bio-fuel is burnt?

Dogwalker



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 11 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

On radio 4 now

dpack



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 11 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

some times accidents ,sometimes greed ,

im in total agreement with bodger on this

Bodger



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 11 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

You'll end up getting a bad name for yourself dpack.

dpack



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 11 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

good

gz



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 11 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Dogwalker wrote:
On radio 4 now

missed it

Nick



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 11 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

iPlayer.

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