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Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
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Location: Hereford

Posted: Fri May 08, 15 8:38 pm Post subject: Manure into water courses.
If someone was dumping manure into a water course, who ought to know about it? The EA?

Rob R

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: York

Posted: Fri May 08, 15 8:42 pm Post subject:
Yes, most definitely the EA.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Location: yes

Posted: Sun May 10, 15 1:38 pm Post subject:

yes

a bit of run off might happen,accidents are treated on a case by case basis but can be punished fairly harshly but dumping is very bad and often treated as bad as a bad thing by the ea.

that said the damage that can be done and over, the fines imposed (if they can be)are later and often dont really match the harm done.

the ea will take an interest proportional to their resources,the proof, who did it (and have they got form) etc etc.

a small operation get the same fines as huge ones so proportionally it is the smaller polluter pays most (and is more likely to stop)

Ty Gwyn

Joined: 22 Sep 2010
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Location: Lampeter

Posted: Sun May 10, 15 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: Manure into water courses.

Nick wrote:

If someone was dumping manure into a water course, who ought to know about it? The EA?

Their psychiatrist,at �300 per ton,they must be off their heads.

Rob R

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: York

Posted: Sun May 10, 15 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: Manure into water courses.

Ty Gwyn wrote:

Nick wrote:

If someone was dumping manure into a water course, who ought to know about it? The EA?

Their psychiatrist,at �300 per ton,they must be off their heads.

You can have as much as you like for �150...

dpack

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Posted: Sun May 10, 15 6:04 pm Post subject:
it might take me a while to collect a "load"but at that price i recon i can gong farm the family i am composting the guinea pig frass for my own collection

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
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Location: Hereford

Posted: Sun May 10, 15 10:05 pm Post subject: Re: Manure into water courses.

Ty Gwyn wrote:

Nick wrote:

If someone was dumping manure into a water course, who ought to know about it? The EA?

Their psychiatrist,at �300 per ton,they must be off their heads.

Are you buying? I've lots to shift. If not, who is?

dpack

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Posted: Sun May 10, 15 10:17 pm Post subject:
perhaps gong farming has a revival to enact ps a while back we saw small bags of bat shit in "gift from @@@@@@" type shop which was about �5 per 250 gm which works out at 20k a metric tonne . if my maths is correct even allowing for paying to have it dried or finding a drying floor i recon gong farming might have a future.

dpack

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Posted: Sun May 10, 15 10:25 pm Post subject:
i just remembered paying about 4 squid for 2.5 kg of dried chook crap when i wanted to boost the mixture tub .not quite as good but 1600 squid a ton is pretty good ummm there is muck , there is money . we should jump on the opportunity who wants to play ?

Ty Gwyn

Joined: 22 Sep 2010
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Location: Lampeter

Posted: Mon May 11, 15 10:42 am Post subject:
Anyone that considers selling their manure is simply selling their fertility down the road.

Rob R

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Location: York

Posted: Mon May 11, 15 10:52 am Post subject:

Ty Gwyn wrote:

Anyone that considers selling their manure is simply selling their fertility down the road.

If I could get �300/t for it I'd only have to sell 40 tonnes to put up the much needed extra winter housing - I think that's a good trade.

onemanband

Joined: 26 Dec 2010
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Location: NCA90

Posted: Mon May 11, 15 5:33 pm Post subject:

Rob R wrote:

Ty Gwyn wrote:

Anyone that considers selling their manure is simply selling their fertility down the road.

If I could get �300/t for it I'd only have to sell 40 tonnes to put up the much needed extra winter housing - I think that's a good trade.

If you rot it and bag it, it would retail for IRO �250-�300/ton eg

I've had a couple of customers ask me for truck loads of manure recently. I can get fresh for free and just charge delivery, but they don't want that, they want rotted manure - I can only get that in bags.
If you got storage and a front loader (or forks), you'd get �50 a ton (or dumpy bag) from landscape gardeners.
Or if you got a transit type tipper you'd get �100 a load if you deliver.

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
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Location: Hereford

Posted: Mon May 11, 15 5:35 pm Post subject:
Retailing for that, and the farmer getting that are slightly different things.

onemanband

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Location: NCA90

Posted: Mon May 11, 15 5:40 pm Post subject:
Yes, hence my dumpy bag price, which is a more realistic business proposition.

Nick

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Location: Hereford

Posted: Mon May 11, 15 5:53 pm Post subject:
Ah, but I live closer to Ty Gwyn. I'm waiting for him to reveal where he can get Three hundred a ton.

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