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Bungo

Joined: 21 Dec 2011
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Location: Wye Valley

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 14 8:22 pm Post subject: Mulberry ?
The one tree post got me curious, was not aware they grew well in the UK. Do they ?and if so a good variety to grow , and what sort of space allowance . and are they self fertile ? Would you need more than one to get a good crop? I had them more down as an exotic , but I would be delighted to find they do well here

sally_in_wales
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Joined: 06 Mar 2005
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Location: sunny wales

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 14 8:30 pm Post subject:
I know of a few sites in south Wales with one huge mulberry in the garden that fruits well every year, as far as I know each is a lone specimen

Bungo

Joined: 21 Dec 2011
Posts: 354
Location: Wye Valley

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 14 8:37 pm Post subject:
Sounds good Sally as we are S Wale , so climate must be OK , after all there's the old nursery rhyme, just never seen one here .

yummersetter

Joined: 26 Jan 2008
Posts: 3241
Location: Somerset

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 14 9:08 pm Post subject:

I've planted about six and two have survived. Three of them were white mulberries, they put out a few leaves in Spring which wither and die. I've tried planting in early winter, midwinter and keeping the tree in a pot in the polytunnel overwinter and planting out in May.

The first Illinois Everbearing died in the same way, the replant of that variety is thriving, as is Italian, we have had a few fruits this year

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45723
Location: Essex

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 14 9:11 pm Post subject:
Mulberries are quite easy, main problem is late frosts in exposed areas. Weeping mulberries take very little space and don't get huge

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Essex

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 14 9:19 pm Post subject:

yummersetter wrote:

Late frosts? Wet winters? I planted another couple last year they're both dead

Bungo

Joined: 21 Dec 2011
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Location: Wye Valley

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 14 9:50 pm Post subject:
Do they not like been transplanted ? They appear to live to a great age , are they slow growing ? Questions , questions

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Essex

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 14 9:53 pm Post subject:
Never transplanted one, I'd say they make a small to medium tree quite quickly. They have here anyway; exposed s facing slope in s e essex

sally_in_wales
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 14 8:29 am Post subject:

Bungo wrote:

Sounds good Sally as we are S Wale , so climate must be OK , after all there's the old nursery rhyme, just never seen one here .

There are particularly nice ones at Tretower Court and at a manor whose name currently eludes me just outside Monmouth

joanne

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 7100
Location: Morecambe, Lancashire

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 14 8:41 am Post subject:
There is a huge black mulberry at Levens Hall, near Carnforth, I've seen it fruiting on many occasions staining everything red from the juice of the berries. It's on the borders of Lancashire and Cumbria just below the Lake District so not an area known for it's dry spells!

yummersetter

Joined: 26 Jan 2008
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Location: Somerset

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 14 10:13 am Post subject:
The old books say they're easy, just lop off a bit of wood from a mulberry, poke the bottom end in the ground and voila! Get the sheets ready to catch the huge crop of fruit. ( I think they're copying from each other because they usually call the cut piece a stanchion, not the most obvious description) I mutter about this every time I dig a mulberry corpse up.

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Essex

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 14 10:16 am Post subject:

yummersetter wrote:

The old books say they're easy, just lop off a bit of wood from a mulberry, poke the bottom end in the ground and voila! Get the sheets ready to catch the huge crop of fruit

Yup, that's what they say. Martin at ART reckons they're quite tricky to propagate

mochyn

Joined: 21 Dec 2004
Posts: 24585
Location: mid-Wales

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 14 10:33 am Post subject:
I know of two: one very old in North Shropshire and the other a little younger in Birmingham. Both black, both fruiting and must be self-fertile The very old one is supported by chaind, poles and all sorts!

Piggyphile

Joined: 02 Apr 2009
Posts: 891
Location: Galicia

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 14 11:33 am Post subject:

I have a black one not a named cultivar planted 2 winters ago. It was already quite a big one (6 ft tall), it is ok but the leaves are a bit sparse, no fruit yet but I have hopes. I tried mulberry seed from Martin at ART but none germinated.

The hot dry summers here are more of a problem to seedling trees than the wet frosty winters. Our winters are around -6 degrees. It is always the last to leaf up and the first to drop it's leaves except for possibly the persimmons (kaki) which are also late developers.

Bungo

Joined: 21 Dec 2011
Posts: 354
Location: Wye Valley

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 14 12:42 pm Post subject:
Thanks everyone, I shall get one I think .

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