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dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46216
Location: yes

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 10 1:22 pm Post subject: Re: My fantastic ï¿½newï¿½ mangle

earthyvirgo wrote:

Cobnut wrote:

In true downsizery spirit, in preparation for my move into a vardo Iï¿½ve bought myself a mangle off eBay. It arrived today and I love it! It was made by Acme in the 1950s, clamps onto a collapsible frame and is in perfect working order; tried a soaking wet flannel on it and the result was as good as using a spin dryer! Oh the simple things

Don't let me near it, they make fantastic etching presses

for small plates they are ace

my grandad added a 1/4 horespower electric motor and half a dozen big cogs to my grans ,no guards but no handle to turn

bonkers thing but it dried washing ,i now have a vivid memory of clanking metal and hot soap

Cobnut

Joined: 29 Aug 2008
Posts: 475
Location: North Herefordshire

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 10 6:34 pm Post subject:

I did a proper clothes washing without a washing machine ï¿½dress rehearsalï¿½ yesterday and it was pretty successful. I found a large container, about twice the height of a bucket, in my garage (I knew it would come in useful one day!), filled with hot water and detergent and was able to get almost as much in it as I can in the washing machine! Left it to soak for a while then went at it with my eBay old copper washing posser. What a brilliant thing that is! Scrubbed the dirtier bits with soap and the wash board (another eBay buy) then once through the mangle to remove the soapy water. 3 rinses in cold water, through the mangle, on the line and all nearly dry by the end of the day. Result!

mochyn wrote:

I'd love a mangle.

They come up on eBay quite often. There are a few at the mo, and if you save a search for ï¿½mangleï¿½ or ï¿½clothes wringerï¿½ on youï¿½ll get an email whenever they are listed. Problem is most are collection only which rules them out if they're the other side of the country

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ACME-WASHING-MANGLE-/130442844358?pt=UK_Collectables_Kitchenalia_RL&hash=item1e5effd8c6

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ACME-Mangle-Wringer-/360309104158?pt=UK_Collectables_Vintage_RL&hash=item53e4189e1e

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vintage-Mermaid-Mangle-/190455004973?pt=UK_Antiques_Other_RL&hash=item2c5800bf2d

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Acme-Mangle-/180572710126?pt=UK_Collectables_Vintage_RL&hash=item2a0af8e4ee

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/vintage-Qualcast-mangle-/170551163093?pt=UK_Collectables_Kitchenalia_RL&hash=item27b5a438d5

Ty Gwyn

Joined: 22 Sep 2010
Posts: 4613
Location: Lampeter

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 10 7:43 pm Post subject:
Cobnut, When you mentioned your Copper Washing Possey, Is that the same as a Dolly?

Cobnut

Joined: 29 Aug 2008
Posts: 475
Location: North Herefordshire

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 10 8:18 am Post subject:

The names used do vary, but this extract explains it:
ï¿½...The milking-stool-on-a-broomstick contraption to the right is generally called a dolly nowadays, but was also a dolly-legs, dolly-pegs, peggy, or maiden, in different parts of Britain. The metal cones on a handle (left) are usually possers in the UK, or plungers in the US, but can also be called dollies, possing-sticks, or poshers. Some people used sticks with grooved blocks of wood on the end, called dollies or ponches. (For "punching" the laundry)...ï¿½
https://www.oldandinteresting.com/washing-dollies.aspx

Ty Gwyn

Joined: 22 Sep 2010
Posts: 4613
Location: Lampeter

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 10 9:41 am Post subject:
Thanks, Seems regional

cassy

Joined: 04 Feb 2008
Posts: 1047
Location: South West Scotland

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 10 4:10 pm Post subject:

Cobnut wrote:

I did a proper clothes washing without a washing machine ï¿½dress rehearsalï¿½ yesterday and it was pretty successful.

So glad it went well! Soon you'll be wondering why you ever bothered with a machine. Just think, never having to wait for the washing machine repair man or search for the best/cheapest new machine when the one you've spent hundreds on part for, finally gives up the ghost. And you can have carbon neutral washing (if that's something that interests you) and get the washing done in a power cut ...

I do wonder what my Gran would have thought though. She gave her poss stick to a local museum and was very happy with her twin tub. Although I would love to use her poss stick, I think she would think I was mad to be doing the washing this way when I could use a machine instead.

shadiya

Joined: 02 Feb 2008
Posts: 1285

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 10 5:25 pm Post subject:

That's pretty impressive Cobnut. I've been thinking about a mangle and trying to psych myself up to doing the washing by hand but so far, have always retreated to the launderette, where one can legitimately read or knit or something, so as to ensure that perverts don't make off with your underwear!

Have to admit, that doing all my washing by hand is one bit of downsizing I've tried to ignore, I shall have to look at it again. How long do you reckon you spent on it?

Making your own bread/ sock / sausages or whatever is so much easier to get enthusiastic about, specially when you are as idle as I am!

Any suggestions on mangle purchasing? Should I look for a particular make? I'm thinking in terms of availability of spares etc

gz

Joined: 23 Jan 2009
Posts: 8921
Location: Ayrshire, Scotland

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 10 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: My fantastic ï¿½newï¿½ mangle
[quote="earthyvirgo"] Don't let me near it, they make fantastic etching presses EV[/quote and good clay slab rollers too

Cobnut

Joined: 29 Aug 2008
Posts: 475
Location: North Herefordshire

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 10 7:58 am Post subject:

cassy wrote:

Cobnut wrote:

I did a proper clothes washing without a washing machine ï¿½dress rehearsalï¿½ yesterday and it was pretty successful.

So glad it went well!...

Thanks, so am I!

Iï¿½ll probably continue using the washing machine until I move out of the cottage though, but itï¿½s great to know I can do a decent load of washing entirely without electricity without too much bother.

shadiya wrote:

ï¿½Have to admit, that doing all my washing by hand is one bit of downsizing I've tried to ignore, I shall have to look at it again. How long do you reckon you spent on it?...

...Any suggestions on mangle purchasing? Should I look for a particular make? I'm thinking in terms of availability of spares etc

From start to finish it took 1 hour to wash about 2 thirds the amount I can get in my washing machine, but about half that time was letting it soak though; about 15 minutes before the first bit of possing, then another soak, then another play with the posser. It wasnï¿½t as hard work as I thought it was going to be either.

As far as I know mangles arenï¿½t being made anymore in this country, but Lehmans in America make them (and sell spare rollers) and I think they will post them here. I suppose if youï¿½re after a mangle that will stay at home then you have lots of choice as many 2nd hand ones come up on eBay. But I needed one that was as portable as possible as Iï¿½ll be nomadic, so I went for the Acme with itï¿½s own fold up stand.

https://www.lehmans.com/store/Home_Goods___Laundry___Washing___Our_Good_Wringer___38150?Args=

https://www.lehmans.com/store/Home_Goods___Laundry___Washing___Lehman_s__Best_Hand_Wringer___32823320?Args=

cassy

Joined: 04 Feb 2008
Posts: 1047
Location: South West Scotland

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 10 9:04 am Post subject:

I can do a week's worth of washing, for 2 people, excluding bedding in an hour and a half.

This includes lugging the water by hand though, so I'm hoping to be quicker once there is running water available. I've been pleasantly surprised that it's not as hard work as people said it would be. Maybe their idea of hard work and mine is different.

I did start a spreadsheet to try to figure out if it would be a better use of my time to earn the money to run the machine or to do it by hand. It worked out at 8 hours a year more work to do it by hand, but this did not take into account the embodied energy of the systems or the freedom from consumerism, which is worth more than 8 hours a year to me.

I've taken to doing a bit of dyeing while I'm out doing the laundry too and that gets another job done which I would not usually have/make time for.

shadiya

Joined: 02 Feb 2008
Posts: 1285

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 10 6:09 pm Post subject:
Wow, I'm impressed and feel humble. I'm going to definitely move doing the washing by hand up the list of things to do. Especially as it means that first I have to buy a mangle which means ebay How I love an excuse to spend money on necessary items! If only my bank manager was a bit more understanding....

evie2

Joined: 29 May 2010
Posts: 2156
Location: Here

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 10 6:54 pm Post subject:
I've seen 2 mangles on ebay but they're in the North of Scotland and I'm not heading home any time soon

Mutton

Joined: 09 May 2009
Posts: 1508

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 11 6:51 pm Post subject:

I like mangles as technology, so not knocking your new mangle, but I wouldn't want to give up my washing machine.

I remember my father talking about doing the weekly wash with a dolly.
His mother was a tiny lady with massive hands from all the hand work she did, including turning mangle, wringing by hand etc. OH's grandmas were the same.

Did anyone watch the Edwardian House the other year - when a big stately home was run for the summer by "servants" for the benefit of the "gentry"? They interviewed everyone at the end. The girl playing the head maid said that her grandma had been a maid and by the time she knew her grandma, her hands were very weak and floppy. She'd worn out her hands. She'd always wondered how on earth her grandma could have worn out her hands, but having done the job of maid for three months she really, really knew.

I've had to hand wash in my time, with and without mangle at different places. With mangle is better BUT give me a washing machine any day. Currently run it on a timer to use overnight electricity. One day will add solar powered hot water to that.

gz

Joined: 23 Jan 2009
Posts: 8921
Location: Ayrshire, Scotland

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 11 7:24 pm Post subject:
I had a mangle when I lived in Garn Dolbenmaen. Proper one with big wooden rollers, much easier than the ones with small rollers It did "eat" buttuns though One of the things that couldn't move South with us

lowri

Joined: 18 Oct 2006
Posts: 1322
Location: ceredigion

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 11 8:23 am Post subject:

I seem to remember from my Social History, that in the 19th century, in coal-mining families, the mangle was an incredibly important part of the cottage economy.
If there were a fatal pit accident, and the widow was left to cope, it was said
"Oh, well, she'll be all right, she's got a mangle", meaning she could make a sort of living taking in washing. I also remember that communities would raise funds to get a mangle for a widow if she hadn't got one.
Slightly off-subject, early photos of working women sometimes feature a woman wearing a man's cap - she would be a widow who had become breadwinner and head of the household.

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