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Mr Solar
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With low energy light bulbs proven to reduce electricty cost by up to 80%, reducing carbon emmisions at the same time, why hasnt the government in its goal to reduce Co2 cut the 17.5% value added tax on these energy saving bulbs, raising the tax on the throw away, heat burning bulbs?
The consumer may have been sold or given a couple of low energy bulbs of the stick type which everybody hates, but have any of you when in a pub, club or hotel etc noticed how few, if any these businesess use to reduce their E bills? none,WHY? becouse if they reduce their electricty bill through changing hundreds of heat emitting throw away bulbs, they would end up paying higher taxes, through higher profits, when its much easier to increase prices.
In the not to distant future, Ecotricty will be offering a brand new type of small twist light bulb, both in a daylight and a soft colour in a number of watt outputs from 7 to 24 and much cheaper than Tesco as the cost of these type of bulbs being manufactured and used by 90% of the population fall in cost. The only reason why low energy light bulbs are still very expensive is becouse its not in the interests of the BIG 3 bulb suppliers to reduce them as they last to long.
Next year watch out for the latest in cathode lighting and LED where the electricty needed per bulb is 2 watts, and a life of 25,000 hrs, no good for Tesco, need to have people buying regular each week, not once in a life time.
As a last point, has anybody noticed how very few of re-chargable batteries and the charging devices that are not sold or visible at any supermarket? The reason is becouse the batteries last to long having used and sold them for years, never to buy a throw away battery again as part of our life style is to reduce the dumping of chemicals into the ground which ends up in the water table. |
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Treacodactyl
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dougal
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As I think may be known, I admire the low consumption of these bulbs, but detest the light quality of every one I've seen.
I had to get a variety of bulbs a couple of weeks ago, and was amazed at the price differences. Homebase were generally twice Tesco's price. And Homebase were asking nearly �8 (if memory serves) for a low energy bulb that I bought (Phillips-branded) from Lidl for under �2...
Rechargeables. For any high current drain usage (even a DECT phone) NiMH rechargeables really show up the limitations of NiCd. (And outlast them in the number of recharge cycles too.)
NiMH cells can usually be swapped straight in as upgrade replacements for NiCd - same charger, etc.
However, in portable kit (like a camera), there's a hard design choice to be made - heavier with a longer battery runtime, or lighter but with little stamina.
In items where power density (stored energy per gramme of weight) is very important to sales (laptops, mobile phones, 'better' cameras...) the expensive Lithium Ion cells are usually chosen by the designers. These cells are not swappable for anything else.
Technology signpost - look out for consumer batteries in the near future made with "nanotechnology" (actually just extremely fine powders) which promise such benefits as near-instant recharging...
There is enthusiasm about fuel cells using methanol - but, awkwardly, such devices are currently banned from being taken on board an aircraft...
And Lidl's *do*, a few times a year, offer NiMH rechargeables - at such an attractive price that folk will queue up outside waiting for the store to open. Well worth watching for! |
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ele
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) have nearly always lasted many, many years and with batteries the Ni-Mh ones seem to work well in even high drain gadgets.
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