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oldish chris

Joined: 14 Jun 2006
Posts: 4148
Location: Comfortably Wet Southport

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 12 8:11 pm Post subject: Re: muzzleloader

magnet wrote:

oldish chris wrote:

Le Loup wrote:

The flintlock is the best survival gun ever made in my opinion.

Surviving what exactly? Unemployment? Unexpected illness? Hurricane Sandy? An ice storm? A drought? Or, the even more likely plague of
zombies?

why do people feel the need to take the piss? If you've nothing good to say why not say nowt at all.Take a bit of time and listen to this guy you would likley come away the better for it....Magnet

Educate me, surviving what exactly?

magnet

Joined: 05 Apr 2010
Posts: 41
Location: Northumberland

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 12 8:13 pm Post subject: Bodgers survival gun!!!!

Bodger wrote:

Not many on the forum shoot or hunt but I agree with what you say.

My chosen weapon for the UK would be my Weiracht .177 air rifle. A bit heavy to carry around but deadly acurate for rabbits, pigeons and squirrels. I daredn't mention catapults and bows, or the Zombies would definately rise from the dead.

I must concur i have the hw80 in .22 its heavy yes but when these pcps are gasping for filtered dried air i'll still be filling the pot.
long live the springers!!,btw nice to speak to a kindred spirit. All the best .....Magnet

Le Loup

Joined: 26 Apr 2010
Posts: 91
Location: New England Australia.

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 12 1:11 am Post subject: Re: muzzleloader

oldish chris wrote:

magnet wrote:

oldish chris wrote:

Le Loup wrote:

The flintlock is the best survival gun ever made in my opinion.

Surviving what exactly? Unemployment? Unexpected illness? Hurricane Sandy? An ice storm? A drought? Or, the even more likely plague of
zombies?

why do people feel the need to take the piss? If you've nothing good to say why not say nowt at all.Take a bit of time and listen to this guy you would likley come away the better for it....Magnet

Educate me, surviving what exactly?

Any scenario that places you in a situation where you need a firearm or other tool for securing food when away from home/towns/cities long term. If you consider this unlikely or impossible, then my post does not consern you.
Keith.

Le Loup

Joined: 26 Apr 2010
Posts: 91
Location: New England Australia.

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 12 1:15 am Post subject:

Bodger wrote:

Good choice Bodger, in fact I have a .22 BSA air rifle I bought in the UK. My personal choice is based on what I alone carry/would carry if I could only take one gun. As it is I have family that also has guns, so IF there were a situation where we had to leave home, then all these guns will be coming with us, including the air rifle.
Keith.

Le Loup

Joined: 26 Apr 2010
Posts: 91
Location: New England Australia.

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 12 1:28 am Post subject: Nothing is carved in stone!

I think it is wise to keep an open mind on survival scenarios, AND on where these scenarios may take place. Had you asked me when I was a teenager living in the UK where will you be living in 10 years time, I would have said "right here in my family home in West Sussex". But I wasn't, I was here in Australia.
What if something happens that requires you to leave the country where you live in order to survive. You could end up anywhere. None of us can possiby know what the future holds for us, so keep an open mind.
Regards, Keith.

Bodger

Joined: 23 May 2006
Posts: 13524

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 12 6:00 am Post subject:
In that case, you've got to have some fishing stuff and preferably, a porter to carry it all.

Le Loup

Joined: 26 Apr 2010
Posts: 91
Location: New England Australia.

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 12 12:20 am Post subject:

Bodger wrote:

In that case, you've got to have some fishing stuff and preferably, a porter to carry it all.

Well because I participate in Historical Trekking, I have all the gear required to survive in most places. It is not really heavy. My knapsack is small compared to modern packs, & I tend to take things out rather than add items. I have been doing this for a lot of years now. I have lived in the country all my life, & have lived in the forest for the past 30 years or so.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46233
Location: yes

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 12 5:18 pm Post subject:
history is the best place to learn what works

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46233
Location: yes

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 12 5:54 pm Post subject:

to hunt for the pot my choice of long term tool would be bow and if static for a while using traplines of some sort for whatever tastes ok as well

with firearms once the propellant is used it is a metal stick ,springers and pcp are ok ,the girondelle (sp?) is a splendid design as a long term tool and performed well when used to extremes

when metal tools break making the parts can be done in a workshop ,

a springy stick ,a bit of string ,a thin pointy stick and a nasty sharp thing can be made most places ,each can be enough but combine they are better

Treacodactyl
Downsizer Moderator

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 25795
Location: Jumping on the bandwagon of opportunism

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 12 6:14 pm Post subject:
I was thinking traps and snares would be the most useful tools in a real survival situation. Either that or a large elephant gun and a couple of tons of salt. Actually a large calibre centerfire with 100 rounds or so would keep you in meat for the rest of your life.

vegplot

Joined: 19 Apr 2007
Posts: 21301
Location: Bethesda, Gwynedd

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 12 10:02 pm Post subject:
The flintlock makes a lot of sense as an all rounder. For a survival gun my personal choice would be a .22 Hornet. Big enough for small game yet quiet and low recoil.

carlos-thejackal

Joined: 20 May 2013
Posts: 48
Location: not there

Posted: Tue May 21, 13 8:28 pm Post subject:
you'll need horse and a bucket to catch the horse wee, to make the gun powder... think I'll just use sainbury's online, for all my emergency needs...

Le Loup

Joined: 26 Apr 2010
Posts: 91
Location: New England Australia.

Posted: Tue May 21, 13 10:26 pm Post subject:

Bodger wrote:

I think an air rifle is a good choice Bodger, I have a .22 BSA I brought over from the UK many years ago. The bow is also a good choice for wilderness survival & hunting in general.
Regards, Keith.

Le Loup

Joined: 26 Apr 2010
Posts: 91
Location: New England Australia.

Posted: Tue May 21, 13 10:42 pm Post subject: Survival Tools.

There is no doubt that the bow is one of the best wilderness survival tools there are, but there are times when you may need something a bit more intimidating. Not that I advocate ever getting into a firefight, but sometimes these things happen.
By using a trap line you can save on powder & lead, & I have the knowledge to make primitive traps & used to run a trap line many years ago. The flintlock is my choice if I can only take one hunting tool. The primitive bow I can make in the field. As it is I am a member of a group, & some members are bow hunters. We also have a selection of modern firearms.
Regards, Keith.

carlos-thejackal

Joined: 20 May 2013
Posts: 48
Location: not there

Posted: Wed May 22, 13 7:46 am Post subject:
had to edit what I wrote, started to laugh after I posted it.

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