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gythagirl
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Mistress Rose
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gardening-girl
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Tavascarow
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gythagirl
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Mistress Rose
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Tavascarow
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Mistress Rose
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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 15 6:12 am Post subject: |
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I realised that Tavascarow, and was really just making the point that for allergy sufferers very low doses, as in this case in local honey, might be better than higher doses of pollen. I know some people do take pollen as they think it keeps them well/cures things, and as it is a good source of protein and micronutrients, it might well have some benefits. I wouldn't pay a lot for it though, I would prefer to get it from the hive, in honey, or as you say, direct from the flower in a salad. What flowers do you have in salad? |
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Tavascarow
Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 8407 Location: South Cornwall
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sean Downsizer Moderator
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Tavascarow
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wellington womble
Joined: 08 Nov 2004 Posts: 15051 Location: East Midlands
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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 15 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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I've never really understood the theory. I can't see how eating pollen stops it irritating your respiratory system. And I also can't see what prevents it from being digested. I'm assuming it's protein, as it's gametes. I also think that many people are assuming flower pollen causes hayfever, which it doesn't. The whole point of flowers is to attract insects, in order to transfer pollen to another flower of the same species. So flowers hold onto to their pollen pretty tightly. So unless you are sticking your nose in them, flowers don't give you hay fever. Hayfever is caused by WIND pollinated plants, like grass and trees that don't have flowers, and thus produce huge quantities of pollen to float around in the air at nose height. So they don't attract bees, so presumabley bee pollen/honey/cappings contain little or no pollen that is actually causing an metric reaction in the first place. So even if it could survive the digestive process and desensitise your respiratory system via your digestive system, it wouldn't be the right pollen anyway.
People are forever recommending it to me, although no one who has told me how brilliant it is can think of anyone for whom it has worked. I have tried it, and noticed no difference. |
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Mistress Rose
Joined: 21 Jul 2011 Posts: 15972
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 15 8:29 am Post subject: |
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I think it depends on your hay fever WW. Some people do suffer with rape flower pollen, and it would be ideal for them. Those that suffer from grass pollen may get some help as some grass pollen will get into the honey, not collected, but because there is so much about at certain times of year. It is also possible that bees collect things like yew which are very abundant, even if they do not get nectar. I have no evidence for that, but as it is early, it might be used to get the colony going.
I am not sure if there is any scientific evidence for honey being good for hay fever, but some people say it is. If you have a course of desensitisation, very small amounts of the irritant are injected, and your blood forms antigens (?) which will then mop up the irritant if it appears again, and you won't get the reaction. You would normally ingest the irritant by inhalation or through the digestive system, but that seems to work. |
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