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OtleyLad

Joined: 13 Jan 2007
Posts: 2737
Location: Otley, West Yorkshire

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 15 5:06 am Post subject:

Ty Gwyn wrote:

Not sure if this list is up to date,but gives a good idea of the number of turbines in and around the UK,one thing for sure,West Yorkshire is not saturated,surely they could get another 100 or so up Warfedale and Otley.

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A7x9UnySJ3tWwXAAopR3Bwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTBydWpobjZlBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2lyMgR2dGlkAw--/RV=2/RE=1450940435/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fen.wikipedia.org%2fwiki%2fList_of_onshore_wind_farms_in_the_United_Kingdom/RK=0/RS=E_WGcrK.rcE7dADqSyMWz6rrBJ4-

I for one would welcome them - plenty of excellent sites around here - you could lose a lot in this lanscape.
The Wharfe must have great potential for Hydro too - high volume/fast flowing.

Mistress Rose

Joined: 21 Jul 2011
Posts: 15986

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 15 7:31 am Post subject:
In our area we have 2 hydro schemes and several wind turbines. Sadly these are historical, the hydro schemes being tide mills and the wind turbines numerous non-working windmills. Restoring some of these to generate power would be step in the right direction.

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Thu Dec 24, 15 9:51 am Post subject: Re: Renewable energy - Scotland shows the way

OtleyLad wrote:

I'm sorry but thats just plain twaddle. Is 'saturated' a measure on some technical scale or just an emotive word from a headline? Please enlighten us.

If you bothered to look at where they are and read through some planning applications you'd know. Same as your original post, it would help if you understood simple differences such as population sizes between Scotland and England and then your argument might make a bit more sense.

Put bluntly, if you want to stand any chance of convincing people to go 'green' then come up with a convincing argument.

crofter

Joined: 11 Feb 2007
Posts: 2252

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 15 11:27 am Post subject:

Mistress Rose wrote:

the wind turbines numerous non-working windmills.

Do you know how old these are? Presumably when planning permission is granted for a wind turbine there are conditions attached to remove the structure at the end of its lifespan or if it falls into disrepair?

Hairyloon

Joined: 20 Nov 2008
Posts: 15425
Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 15 11:55 am Post subject:

Mistress Rose wrote:

In our area we have 2 hydro schemes and several wind turbines. Sadly these are historical, the hydro schemes being tide mills and the wind turbines numerous non-working windmills. Restoring some of these to generate power would be step in the right direction.

Since the traditional style of windmill is considered by many to be an attractive feature and the modern style to be a carbuncle on the landscape, why do we not see a return to the traditional style more often?
Obviously the modern ones are taller and more efficient, but isn't a shorter less efficient tower better than no tower?

Behemoth

Joined: 01 Dec 2004
Posts: 19023
Location: Leeds

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 15 12:05 pm Post subject:

OtleyLad wrote:

The Wharfe must have great potential for Hydro too - high volume/fast flowing.

They are going in on the Aire. Usually where there's a weir, like at Otley.

Hairyloon

Joined: 20 Nov 2008
Posts: 15425
Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 15 3:01 pm Post subject:

Behemoth wrote:

OtleyLad wrote:

The Wharfe must have great potential for Hydro too - high volume/fast flowing.

They are going in on the Aire. Usually where there's a weir, like at Otley.

There should be plenty of scope: how much of Leeds was built on textile mills that were originally powered by water?

john of wessex

Joined: 18 Jun 2007
Posts: 2130

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 15 8:00 pm Post subject:
Basically you need a 6ft drop to get a realistic amount of power from a hydro site. If you follow most rivers there is often a history of hydro power wherever you can get that much drop

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34535
Location: Hereford

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 15 12:23 am Post subject:

Ty Gwyn wrote:

Is there any danger you could please, pretty please, learn to shorten links? Your posts make things unreadable.

Hairyloon

Joined: 20 Nov 2008
Posts: 15425
Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 15 1:15 am Post subject:

Nick wrote:

Is there any danger you could please, pretty please, learn to shorten links? Your posts make things unreadable.

Or if not, then at least follow the link to the site and post the URL from the header: posting straight from the search engine adds a shedload of clutter.

On a lighter note: Merry Christmas.

Mistress Rose

Joined: 21 Jul 2011
Posts: 15986

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 15 7:41 am Post subject:
All the windmills are of the traditional type. The one above us, on Windmill Hill strangely, was restored as a house some years ago and they put non working sails on it so it looked as it used to. Nobody has suggested taking them down and in fact there would be complaints if they did.

Ty Gwyn

Joined: 22 Sep 2010
Posts: 4613
Location: Lampeter

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 15 9:40 am Post subject:

Nick wrote:

Ty Gwyn wrote:

Is there any danger you could please, pretty please, learn to shorten links? Your posts make things unreadable.

The last time you mentioned this,i did ask how i could copy and paste without this happening,no one answered to tell me how.

I don`t honestly know how to shorten these links.

Merry Christmas to you.

Ty Gwyn

Joined: 22 Sep 2010
Posts: 4613
Location: Lampeter

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 15 9:42 am Post subject:

Hairyloon wrote:

Nick wrote:

Is there any danger you could please, pretty please, learn to shorten links? Your posts make things unreadable.

Or if not, then at least follow the link to the site and post the URL from the header: posting straight from the search engine adds a shedload of clutter.

On a lighter note: Merry Christmas.

Thank you,i will try that.

Merry Christmas.

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34535
Location: Hereford

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 15 3:01 pm Post subject:
https://forum.downsizer.net/about25325.html And to you. Yell if it doesn't make sense.

Hairyloon

Joined: 20 Nov 2008
Posts: 15425
Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 15 6:59 pm Post subject:

Nick wrote:

Yell if it doesn't make sense.

Christmas? No, it doesn't make a lot of sense...

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