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wellington womble

Joined: 08 Nov 2004
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Location: East Midlands

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 16 11:41 am Post subject: Ash
I have just taken some low branches off my lovely ash tree. can I use the small ones as cuttings? If not, can you cultivate ash from wild seed? Anyone done it? I'd like more ash trees.

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
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Location: Hereford

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 16 11:55 am Post subject:
Ash seems to grow like a weed round here. I'm forever cutting out saplings.

Tavascarow

Joined: 06 Aug 2006
Posts: 8407
Location: South Cornwall

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 16 2:13 pm Post subject:

Nick wrote:

Ash seems to grow like a weed round here. I'm forever cutting out saplings.

Ditto.
Except I transplant them not cut them out.
I don't think fraxinus propagate easily from cuttings.
This page says they root from semi ripe cuttings in a mist unit.
Cheaper to grow them from seed & you might be lucky to raise plants that are resistant to Ash dieback.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 16 3:30 pm Post subject:
from seed seems the best way going by the number of randoms. under a tree in autumn a quick sweep should give more than enough. if you want them in particular places propagate the seed and transplant young ones the next winter seems a reliable means to do it with most trees .

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
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Location: Hereford

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 16 3:32 pm Post subject:

Tavascarow wrote:

Nick wrote:

Ash seems to grow like a weed round here. I'm forever cutting out saplings.

I'm a remote house in the middle of thousands of acres. Ash will survive being taken out of my lawn, drive and guttering.

wellington womble

Joined: 08 Nov 2004
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Location: East Midlands

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 16 7:21 pm Post subject:
I've got a fine mature tree, but not a single baby. Admittedly things have been somewhat overgrown here recently, but then regular(ish) mowing is hardly going to help either. I'll try some cuttings now, and look out for seeds in the autumn. I haven't cleared the land where they're going yet anyway, but I was hoping that cuttings would take now, and I could plant them out over the winter.

Mistress Rose

Joined: 21 Jul 2011
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 16 6:53 am Post subject:
I think ash is more usually grown from seed. It seems to do it very easily here anyway. If you don't get seed of your own, try looking locally and get it from a healthy tree.

dpack

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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 16 9:24 am Post subject:
i was about to suggest a ds collection, between us we could post a few seeds from a wide diversity of ash genetics upping the chances of getting some die back resistant ones among the new plants.

Tavascarow

Joined: 06 Aug 2006
Posts: 8407
Location: South Cornwall

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 16 10:05 am Post subject:

Nick wrote:

Tavascarow wrote:

Nick wrote:

Ash seems to grow like a weed round here. I'm forever cutting out saplings.

I'm a remote house in the middle of thousands of acres. Ash will survive being taken out of my lawn, drive and guttering.

& I'm an old tree hugging hippy who wants as much ash coppice as possible.

We don't have any natural ash woods near here.
The oak is dominant & it's too slow growing & valuable for wildlife to be a good coppice tree.
So any Ash or Hazel is welcome.

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34535
Location: Hereford

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 16 10:17 am Post subject:
Drop me your address. I'll uproot and mail them.

dpack

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Location: yes

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 16 10:39 am Post subject:
i will post some seeds come autumn if you want em . 2 gene pools and counting

wellington womble

Joined: 08 Nov 2004
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Location: East Midlands

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 16 12:08 pm Post subject:
Well, if the cuttings root, you can have some of those as well.

dpack

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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 16 1:59 pm Post subject:

wellington womble wrote:

Well, if the cuttings root, you can have some of those as well.

the ones i have planted are from seed chucked into the 7 acre wood which is in hudds and all seed planted.

i havnt had a look at it this year but will try to get some snaps in the autumn,the mixed oaks plus other stuff do a nice mosaic of colours.

ps i have pretty much run out of space on that one and somebody will need to do some management in a couple of decades

Tavascarow

Joined: 06 Aug 2006
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Location: South Cornwall

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 16 2:24 pm Post subject:
Most of mine goes in gaps in the hedges but I plan to plant about a half acre of mixed woods on a steep bank behind my neighbours house. I want the trees to stabilise the bank & reduce erosion & it will be a good timber/fuel supply in coming years.

wellington womble

Joined: 08 Nov 2004
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Location: East Midlands

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 16 10:48 pm Post subject:

I've got about 3/4 of an acre I'd like to plant up with trees. Heavy-ish soil and a bit shady in places. Currently under about 8 foot of brambles. There's a huge ash, a big sycamore (and a couple of smaller ones) and some hoarse chestnuts, as well as some hazel coppice and a couple of lovely oaks already on site (They all have TPOs on, or I'd have the sycamores out for firewood). Initially I wanted ash for coppicing, but as I can't get hold of it, I was going to go for hazel coppice with oak standards. But if I can get some ash in, I'd like to try.

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