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alison
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Location: North Devon

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 05 9:29 am Post subject: Tallow
I understand the process of rendering beef fat to get tallow, but I was wondering, when I cook off mince, or stewing steak and leave overnight to remove the excess fat, is this fat the same thing.

alison
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 05 9:30 am Post subject:
I should have said, I am thinking of the tallow for soap making.

wellington womble

Joined: 08 Nov 2004
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Location: East Midlands

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 05 10:49 am Post subject:
I have done this to add to the dripping pot for roasting, but found it made the roasties taste a bit funny. I don't think it is the same quality of fat, but I don't know about for soap making. You could always save it seperately for laundry soap.

Sarah D

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 05 4:40 pm Post subject:
REfined beef fat/tallow seem to be the same thing. The soap I made on Sunday was marde with lard, which gives a good white soap with lots of bubbles (it says in the book!). I would like next to try one with palm or coconut oil, though rather than lard, although it was very successful.

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Essex

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 05 4:41 pm Post subject:
What about rapeseed? One of our few native oils...

Sarah D

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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 05 4:45 pm Post subject:
Yes, I could try that, would obviously be better in a lot of ways. Soaps made with poils tend to be a bit softer than those made with animal fats, but that should be sufferable. Might have a go with the oil tomorrow if I get around to it. Will have to look for British rapeseed oil - any brands you know of?

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Essex

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 05 4:47 pm Post subject:
There's a really expensive organic cold pressed one, I'll have a dig around

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45677
Location: Essex

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 05 4:48 pm Post subject:
https://link.linksorganic.com/e_article000247030.cfm I think Suma stock it

Sarah D

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 2584

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 05 4:52 pm Post subject:
Well, bugger me................ Petwood are just up the road from me and I have a friend who works for them. How convenient............... Thanks for that Tahir.

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Essex

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 05 4:53 pm Post subject:

Sarah D wrote:

Well, bugger me................

I'd rather not...

Sarah D

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 05 4:56 pm Post subject:
Sorry, just a bit surprised at my own luck, there............

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Essex

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 05 4:57 pm Post subject:
If you buy some you'd better tell me what it's like, it sounds good but I've never tried it before.

Sarah D

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 05 5:05 pm Post subject:
Ok, will do. I know their cereals are excellent.

cab

Joined: 01 Nov 2004
Posts: 32429

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 05 5:43 pm Post subject:

Sarah D wrote:

Yes, I could try that, would obviously be better in a lot of ways. Soaps made with poils tend to be a bit softer than those made with animal fats, but that should be sufferable. Might have a go with the oil tomorrow if I get around to it. Will have to look for British rapeseed oil - any brands you know of?

It's good to blend oils to get the result you like. I tend to use a base of 400g coconut oil (cheap in Chinese supermarkets), 400g sunflower oil, and 200g olive oil. Comes out hard enough. I've used goose fat, which eventually gave a lovely, mild soap, but took a long time to go hard.

Coconut oil tends to make the bar harder, if you're using oils rather than animal fats.

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45677
Location: Essex

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 05 5:44 pm Post subject:
Are there any other UK veggie oils?

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