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dpack
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the chap with the turkeys was clear that his problem was not low skilled workers or low pay
he paid skilled folk well, they had the skills and documentation required for the field to shop stuff properly, they were up for a lucrative few weeks doing a high standard job on his turkeys every year.
perhaps they come from a place where they have enough skilled folk at that season and they liked a well paid contract to tide them over until spring
it is not the wages that has caused this, skills are vital, so is the ability and willingness to deliver those skills when and where they are needed
i am rather glad that "unemployed of ... insert place of choice..." is not wanting a 20-minute crash course in meat inspection, packing safety and hygiene or high welfare turkey dispatch for a six-week job in norfolk
bumping one off for dinner or "bad behaviour" and dinner is as much as i can cope with, industrial dispatch would put me in therapy
i have no paperwork, no "processing skills", etc
the money is not the issue, nor is such a job is beneath me, i have unblocked maceraters  |
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Ty Gwyn
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Either people have gone to lazy or see this kind of work beneath them,
Or the employer is not paying a decent wage now he`s used to cheap labour these last few years. |
It's most definitely the first two, I spoke to a friends son, currently a labourer on building sites @ £10.00 p/hr. I asked him if he'd work in a poultry plant, he said no, not even if it was at £20.00 p/hr. |
I agree with you,but it also could be the money,
When i moved here 35yrs in November,the abattoir in Llanybydder ,Oriel Jones,if you went there the predominant language spoken you would hear would be Welsh as local people worked there,about 5yrs after i moved here and finished working in the colliery i had to go to Swansea tax office to sort a problem out,on the wall was a recruitment poster for Oriel Jones`s abattoir offering £5.15 per hour,15p per hour over minimum wage,that was around the time the workforce changed to a Polish workforce,
Then on the otherhand 2 farms,one a mile and the other 2miles up the road from me have both done a few hundred turkey`s for christmas since i`ve been here,and it has always been local people and their children that have gone to help out,and been paid of course.
Its the same problem with the veg picking,it all used to be done by local people,but something changed,or people`s attitudes changed. |
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