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Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 21 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Looking at that it depends on how you want to train it. The current trend seems to be to have one rod and grow the grapes off that. The old way was to have a number of rods and to cover the whole greenhouse. If you want to use the greenhouse for other things, I would suggest one rod along the ridge and cut the others out, but if not, then use all of them. If going for one, during the winter when it is dormant, cut the others out. Make sure it is dormant, or it will bleed. Train the stem along the ridge and let the grapes form on that.

I would suggest reading a book on growing grapes by the Royal Horticultural Society. They are very good and can give far better advice than I can.

sgt.colon



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 21 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Thank you MR, that is great. I'll cut it back to just the one rod, The only reason I have two going in there is because the lady two plots up from me told me I had to have two because someone told her that.

I'll give some reading a go.

Shan



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 21 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Shane wrote:
I'm with you Shan - green papaya salad is amazing. Ripe papayas are too cheesy for my liking

Had half a green papaya yesterday and the other half will be for today.... yummy!

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 21 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Sgt. Colon, I would do the reading before you do the cutting. You may find they recommend something different now. You can't cut until the vine is dormant anyway.

sgt.colon



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 21 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I will MR and I'm doing that right now.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 21 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Shan wrote:
Shane wrote:
I'm with you Shan - green papaya salad is amazing. Ripe papayas are too cheesy for my liking

Had half a green papaya yesterday and the other half will be for today.... yummy!


Impressive for south wales, although it has been a warm late summer around here too.

Shan



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 21 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

If only... I might have stayed. Papayas in Portugal.

sgt.colon



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 22 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

It is showing night time lows of about 3 degrees. Would that be too cold for my tomato plants if they were in my greenhouse?

Thank you.

dpack



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 22 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

yes

a candle under a terracotta plant pot or alternative heat source might keep it warm enough, but leave it a week or two is more reliable

did you see the snaps of my chill shocked bonsai tomato fail?

Nicky cigreen



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 22 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

sgt.colon wrote:
It is showing night time lows of about 3 degrees. Would that be too cold for my tomato plants if they were in my greenhouse?

Thank you.


might be worth getting a max min thermometer to see how the temp holds up in the greenhouse. my tomatoes are planted in the gh now.

sgt.colon



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 22 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Thank you both. I'll leave it a little while long for now. They are looking really healthy and I don't want to spoil that.

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did you see the snaps of my chill shocked bonsai tomato fail?


I do remember that DPack and goodness knows I don't want that.

sgt.colon



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 22 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I've had a bit of a shufty round down the allotment DPack and I've created another wildflower bed, so I've relocated the frog hotel and thought I'd do a picture for you.



dpack



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 22 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

very luxury toad hall

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 22 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

That looks good Sgt. Colon, but you might like to add a bit on top of that. It doesn't need to be much, but more cover will keep it nice and damp, even in dry weather, which is what they need.

sgt.colon



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 22 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Thanks both.

MR, when you say, add a bit more, do you mean some flowers or a bit more soil?

Thanks.

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