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sean
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 06 6:35 pm Post subject:

Justme wrote:

sean wrote:

Aled wrote:

hmm I've just been quoted ï¿½50 for a m cubed of seasoned logs.

That's incredibly expensive.

Not for hard wood cut seasoned & split inc del.

Still a lot more than I pay. I'll measure the log pile tomorrow. Maybe we've got more trees than you?

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 06 6:54 pm Post subject:
I've just had about 2mï¿½ of seasoned split hardwood logs delivered for ï¿½70. That's for somewhere in the South East so I would expect 'em to be cheaper elsewhere. Out of interest, if you measure a stack of logs should you make any allowance for the 'gaps', if so what %?

sean
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 06 6:56 pm Post subject:
I think it's just assumed to be 'reasonably' tightly stacked. We buy ours by the 'load', which is why I'm going to have to measure the pile tomorrow.

RichardW

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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 06 7:08 pm Post subject:

Treacodactyl wrote:

I've just had about 2mï¿½ of seasoned split hardwood logs delivered for ï¿½70. That's for somewhere in the South East so I would expect 'em to be cheaper elsewhere.

Out of interest, if you measure a stack of logs should you make any allowance for the 'gaps', if so what %?

Nope you pay for the air too. Other way is to buy by the bag (cost to much) or weight but then you will pay more for badly seasoned logs as they have more water in them. A good hand stacked cube is much more wood than a tractor bucket scopped cube. When we collect ours some times we hand stack (is it all good large bits) some times we let em scoop it. When we hand stack it last ages extra.

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Treacodactyl
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 06 7:43 pm Post subject:
Ours was also 'by the load' and it was a small tipper van, a level load came out to 2mï¿½ hand stacked which is a nice round number.

dpack

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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 06 10:38 pm Post subject:
wood good and with a bit of nous its free

Aled

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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 06 9:01 am Post subject:

should be getting another "wood quote" today, but since they're the only two suppliers I can find within 50 miles I'm expecting both quotes to be quite similar.

Thanks for pointing out the cons with regards to the boiler Just Me. Certainly raises a few questions I need to ask. I think I'll also need to ensure that I have an electric immersion in the tank so we're not completely stuck if the boiler breaks down/log supply gets delayed.

Eventually a store where we could season ourselves would be a real benefit, but I think we need to build the house first!

tahir

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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 06 9:01 am Post subject:

Aled wrote:

I think we need to build the house first!

Started at all?

Aled

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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 06 9:11 am Post subject:
No - the epic journey continues. Have full planning permission, now, though. Should complete building regs in Jan. Currently getting quotes from builders with regards to starting the build in Feb/March (nice dry month to put foundations! ) getting closer.....

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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 06 9:15 am Post subject:
How much room do you have to store the logs? If you have the room and can find a supplier unseasoned logs should be cheaper but will need a couple of years to season, the last one under cover. At least with a cost of ï¿½700 a year you will have a decent reason to look for a few acres of woodland to buy...

Aled

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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 06 10:23 am Post subject:
nowhere near enough room, esp as we are having to scrap building the garage due to increasing costs of the house. So we could maybe take 3m cubed at a push. I'm an optimist by nature so banking on the fact that a well insulated new build with an efficient UFH system won't need as many logs as they estimate. And we can just wrap up warm otherwise!

RichardW

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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 06 12:22 pm Post subject:

Aled wrote:

Hope the emersion is just for hot water not heating. EEk not built the house yet LOL. The burner prices will go up then before you install.

Justme

sean
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 06 1:27 pm Post subject:
Just stacked last nights delivery, comes out about 2.5m cubed for ï¿½70. Seasoned, cut to length and split. There's obviously quite a lot of price variation.

Aled

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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 06 2:16 pm Post subject:
don't suppose there's any chance your suppliers would do a 500 mile round trip once a month Sean?

sean
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 06 2:22 pm Post subject:
Doubt it. It took me two weeks to get him over here, and I'm only about 5 miles away from him.

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