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xlt-hunter



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 07 2:27 am    Post subject: on a hunt in wales... Reply with quote
    

Hello All,

Hapy new year to 2007 - came across to here from RC and INEGB forums and looking to go back to the country in some aspect... I have this call from the country to take me back (I feel i belong out there....)

Anyways, one of the plans for 2007 and for my parents to locate a house with some land / smallholding based in Wales...

Basicly what we are as follows:


    * 1+ Acre of land. - would like a mix with woodland if possible for fuel source?
    * Must have 3 bedrooms for parents and kids
    * Outbuildings so I could convert into a studio apartment for myself..? No nesscesary as on the land could apply for planning permission for a log cablin.
    * Must in Wales, but Scotland can be okay
    * Rural setting please!
    * Budget - �220,000 MAX (housing 2 houses and paying off both mortgages)

    Help!!! - been hunting all day on Estate Agents for something and found 1 that seems to be okay and 1 in need of major work

Bovey Belle



Joined: 18 Apr 2006
Posts: 77

PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 07 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

It's not the best time of year to be looking really, as the ones still on the market from last year seem to be the ones with ifs and buts about them (as a friend of mine, who is also house-hunting in Wales recently found out). Lots get taken off over the winter months, or the people who want to sell decide to wait until spring.

You're also very late "catching the boat" as prices have really taken off here in Wales in recent years and we have now evened up a lot with the rest of the country (though to Home Counties eyes I dare say it still seems good value for money over this way.)

Land - it depends what you want it for. Woodland is going to be much cheaper than pasture land. Good pasture land is going to be cheaper than a square of damp boggy mynydd.

You also have to consider whether you need to be working. Wages are low here (but then the cost of living is that much cheaper as well) and not surprisingly, English incomers tend to be pushed aside in favour of local Welsh people, and unless you speak Welsh, job finding can be difficult. We live in Carmarthenshire, which is very Welsh speaking. Other parts of Wales are less so, but the nearer you get to the English border, the higher the house prices are.

I don't know where you've been looking so far, but it may not be a bad idea to come and check out the "lay of the land" in some of the areas you are considering, and see what appeals.

Bovey Belle



Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 07 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

P.S. Your budget is at the very very bottom limits of what would buy you a house and a morsel of land round here. You may have to consider semi-detached with land, to be more realistic. Good luck anyway.

sally_in_wales
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 07 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Looking at it from another perspective, houses with big gardens arent expensive still in Wales. We have an end of terrace, 4 bedroom which was revalued at �45k a few weeks ago, you can still pick them up for half that if you shop around. Ours has a big garden (that would be productive if I got myself sorted out but is currently all brambles) and backs onto mountain, so there is forage and the illusion of more countryside.

Its not impossible to find two or three such houses for sale next door to each other. Like you, I aspire to a 'proper' smallholding plot, but given the prices, if next door came up for sale, what we would do is buy that and combine the properties, that would give us a huge garden, and we could have some very decent workshop and storage space in the house.

So, if you are prepared to thing creatively, and look for housing like this on the edge of a town, you may have additional options that havent occurred to you yet.

lottie



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 07 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

stick with it---we'd decided over a year ago that we were going to have to go to france to afford a house with more land than the 2 allotments we had rented for years----kept looking---if we could afford it it needed too much money spending on it, if it was o.k. it was too dear---then a year ago spotted a 3 bed bungalow with 1.5 acres and out building that was well within your price budget -----admittedly we got it because we'd no mortgage on our house at the time so by raising one we were "cash" buyers----the downside is we have since sold our house and had backword---the upside is we will sell it again and be where we wanna be----took me a year of trawling the internet and estate agents---but worth it in the end

Penny Outskirts



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 07 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

It's very strange - at the moment, when we don't have the money, I can find loads of houses we'd love to buy. I bet the minute we have the money, we won't be able to find one

Good luck with your search xlt-hunter

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