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Jonnyboy

Joined: 29 Oct 2004
Posts: 23956
Location: under some rain.

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 05 12:35 pm Post subject:

Cab wrote:

judyofthewoods wrote:

All but a vegan would be in a position to criticise anyone for shooting for food.

A vegan has to eat food that takes up farming space, which necessitates that less land is available for other wild species of plant and animal. In effect, a vegan is as indirectly responsible for animal death as anyone else.

That seems to be pushing the hypothetical argument a bit far if you ask me. The only people who could question meat eaters would be those who only ate fallen fruit after asking all the wildlife around if they aren't hungry.

McLay455

Joined: 23 Nov 2004
Posts: 89
Location: West of Scotland

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 05 9:10 am Post subject: Season for rabbits
As my old poacher pal used to say You should only shoot rabbits if the day ends in a Y!!

DarrenG

Joined: 26 Dec 2004
Posts: 110
Location: Lincolnshire Fens

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 05 7:44 am Post subject:
well gassing cant be done anymore, some people prefer milky does, and if you kill a lactating rat take the babies if you find them to Judy to hand rear, and surely a dog caught rabbit is the most ethical way to control the rabbit population that you want to eat, as it doesnt use any of the earths sources such as lead(shooting), and its either dead or away

cab

Joined: 01 Nov 2004
Posts: 32429

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 05 9:08 am Post subject:

Jonnyboy wrote:

You mean fruitarians? You do get them.

I think it's important that just like we omnivores have to be aware of how our food is produced and what the environmental and ethical issues are, a vegan or vegetarian must have the same considerations. If you're a vegan because you believe that harming animals is unethical, you must face the reality that growing plants for food hurts animals. It's unavoidably true. That doesn't mean that a vegetarian or vegan can't question an omnivore, but it does mean that there are some pointed questions that can be asked back.

leebu

Joined: 23 Nov 2004
Posts: 418
Location: east yorkshire

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 05 10:54 pm Post subject:

Most vegans and vegetarians don't argue that their existence doesn't impact on animals, only that it is minimised and free of cruelty (and that includes slaughtering animals for food when we don't need to). Food needs to be produced and arable farming is a more efficient use of land than that used to rear cattle, especially if it is to be done ethically. They would argue therefore that a vegetarian lifestyle has the least impact...short of shooting themselves in the head to save oxygen! Mind you if they argue that in leather shoes then I agree, they deserve to have their bubble burst.

cab

Joined: 01 Nov 2004
Posts: 32429

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 05 10:02 am Post subject:

leebu wrote:

That's a perfectly rational argument that they can use... But there are gaping holes in it best left for another discussion

My point isn't that vegetarianism and veganism aren't moral lifestyles, it is that the moral issues here are way more complex than often they appear.

dornadair

Joined: 13 May 2007
Posts: 63
Location: left a bit

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 07 3:34 pm Post subject:
After 15 years of Vegetarianism I am now guided along the principles that if I would be prepared to kill it myself I will eat it. Besides fresh rabbit just tastes so damn good!!!

KILLITnGRILLIT

Joined: 14 Sep 2006
Posts: 894
Location: Looking at a screen in the front room

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 07 5:21 pm Post subject:
Ahem........Oxford english dictionary definition vegetarian Show phonetics noun [C] (UK INFORMAL veggie) a person who does not eat meat for health or religious reasons or because they want to avoid cruelty to animals: This word comes from an American Native word meaning Lousy hunter

pricey

Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Posts: 6444

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 07 5:58 pm Post subject:

KILLITnGRILLIT wrote:

This word comes from an American Native word meaning **Lousy hunter **

I will have to tell my mate Olly that, he might turn veggie

Rob R

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 31902
Location: York

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 07 6:18 pm Post subject:

leebu wrote:

Food needs to be produced and arable farming is a more efficient use of land than that used to rear cattle, especially if it is to be done ethically.

Agree with cab, the above is not necessarily true though- by 'more efficient' I assume you mean more weight of food can be produced (not taking into account any ethical/environmental considerations on either side).

Old-Chads-Orchard

Joined: 07 Dec 2005
Posts: 394
Location: Malpas, Cheshire

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 07 8:56 pm Post subject:

Wombat wrote:

I don't remember there being a season for rabbits, thats why there are so many of the damn things around.
Went out on Monday night with lamp on my two acre field, shot 2 out of 8 that were grazing around. So, so many, making such a mess

Wombat

If you need a hand just let me know

Bodger

Joined: 23 May 2006
Posts: 13524

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 07 7:45 am Post subject:
I see that deerstalker is down as being the originator of this post but that his post has vanished. Two things. There' nothing sweeter than a half or three quarter grown rabbit and secondly, in some areas the rabbit population has exploded. Rabbits can cause terrible damage to crops in May June and July, so if you are going to control them you might as ell eat them.

Old-Chads-Orchard

Joined: 07 Dec 2005
Posts: 394
Location: Malpas, Cheshire

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 07 9:57 pm Post subject:
The little gits have broken through the wire around my blackcurrants, sod all left except twigs The air rifle is getting a trip out tomorrow

Brownbear

Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 14929
Location: South West

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 07 5:53 am Post subject:
Rabbita are like American corporations - a good thing when rigorously controlled, but a nightmare when operating without constraint. Load up your subsonics, imagine each coney is wearing a Ronald McDonald cap and chanting 'would-you-like-a-pie-with-that', and open fire.

willding2007

Joined: 13 Jul 2007
Posts: 33
Location: rhondda valley

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 07 3:29 pm Post subject:
no closed season for rabbits , but you will control the numbers more effectivlyby culling late winter early spring

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