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sparky

Joined: 02 Nov 2005
Posts: 199

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 07 8:34 pm Post subject:
hi i do a fir bit of shooting and even with a rimfire i tend to not take a body shots as even as close as 20 yards i have seen them get to there hole or hedge row and die out of reach so i would say if you cannot get a head shot dont take it unless it is with .17 or 223 patience =accuracy=dinner rush =inaccuracy=long slow death

whitelegg1

Joined: 05 Apr 2005
Posts: 409
Location: Woodford Green

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 07 6:36 pm Post subject:

sparky wrote:

hi i do a fir bit of shooting and even with a rimfire i tend to not take a body shots as even as close as 20 yards i have seen them get to there hole or hedge row and die out of reach so i would say if you cannot get a head shot dont take it
unless it is with .17 or 223

patience =accuracy=dinner
rush =inaccuracy=long slow death

Assuming you mean .17 Remington, with those two calibers, I would have said, you wouldn't need to gut the rabbit either....or pick it up. As there wouldn't be much left!!!! The ballistic trauma caused by the high velocity would be phenominal!!

Pete

P.S. Would you Devon boys be up for a weekend and Pricey's?[/u]

sparky

Joined: 02 Nov 2005
Posts: 199

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 07 10:50 pm Post subject:

whitelegg1 wrote:

sparky wrote:

patience =accuracy=dinner
rush =inaccuracy=long slow death

Pete

P.S. Would you Devon boys be up for a weekend and Pricey's?[/u]

pre mashed ferret food

always up for bunny bashing

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34535
Location: Hereford

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 07 7:49 am Post subject:

I may have missed a bit of this thread, but I have some land. How much do we need, and how far from the highways/other people's stuff do we need to be.

I'm happy to lend the land out, along with space for camping, use of the kitchen/bathrooms sort of thing. Don't really have room for people to sleep inside right now, due to flood induced carnage, but that aside...

There's also a plentiful supply of rabbits & pigeons...

Brownbear

Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 14929
Location: South West

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 07 10:35 am Post subject:

sparky wrote:

patience =accuracy=dinner
rush =inaccuracy=long slow death

Well, if someone can't hit a rabbit in the head at 60 yards, I don't see why they'd be able to hit it at 20 either. It's not that different - eht bullet goes where you point the rifle. You have to calculate the drop, but if you know your rabbit is 60 yards off, and the bullet falls by 4 clicks or 1 MOA or whatever frim your zeroed range, then the correction is a simple one.

Shooting things in the guts is a rotten way to shoot - cruel, ineffective as even if you retrieve the animal the stomach contents will have ruined the meat anyway, and indicative of ignorance of proper shot placement.

But it's perfectly effective to drop a bunny with a round through the upper chest - hitting the heart and lungs. It's how deer are shot, after all.

whitelegg1

Joined: 05 Apr 2005
Posts: 409
Location: Woodford Green

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 07 4:45 pm Post subject:
It's all gone very quiet on this thread Pete

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45669
Location: Essex

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 07 4:47 pm Post subject:
Twatting BILs decided he can't go, scared of his missus.

welsh lamb

Joined: 26 Sep 2006
Posts: 409
Location: Gwynedd

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 07 6:13 pm Post subject:

Quote:

Would blinking well love to. Can't see the missus letting me though

Short memory me thinks!!

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45669
Location: Essex

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 07 6:17 pm Post subject:

welsh lamb wrote:

Quote:

Would blinking well love to. Can't see the missus letting me though

Short memory me thinks!!

Oi you

welsh lamb

Joined: 26 Sep 2006
Posts: 409
Location: Gwynedd

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 07 6:19 pm Post subject:

KILLITnGRILLIT

Joined: 14 Sep 2006
Posts: 894
Location: Looking at a screen in the front room

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 07 7:17 pm Post subject:
I have land, rifles, ammo, knowledge and a farmer who is in desperate need for a few less rabbits....................down side, Scotland

whitelegg1

Joined: 05 Apr 2005
Posts: 409
Location: Woodford Green

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 07 6:44 am Post subject:

KILLITnGRILLIT wrote:

I have land, rifles, ammo, knowledge and a farmer who is in desperate need for a few less rabbits....................down side, Scotland

Arrrgh, there's always a catch!
If I was single and at leaisure.....I would take you up on that offer...

Always eager to learn more. Only been going for two years.
I feel I have something to offer in the instruction feild as well.

Hoping for something to appear in the South

(you know who you are!)

Pete

Mary-Jane

Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Posts: 18397
Location: The Fishing Strumpet is from Ceredigion in West Wales

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 07 8:29 am Post subject:
Would it not be a good idea to set up a clay trap for shot gun practice rather than barrelling straight into full-on shooting for the beginners?

whitelegg1

Joined: 05 Apr 2005
Posts: 409
Location: Woodford Green

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 07 9:15 am Post subject:

Good idea for the shotgun crowd.

Different tools for different quarry.

Pigeons , crows, rabbits and hares = Shotguns

Rabbit, Pigeons (still) = Air Rifle non-fac

Rabbit, Pigeons (still), hareish = Air Rifle FAC

Rabbit, crow, hare = Rimfire

Deer = Centerfire

I personally find the idea of shotguns on rabibits and hare diificult. Aiming at a moving target, and hoping to get a clean kill.
Also difficult in alot of situations to get close enough to use a shotgun on them. Also after the first shot, they ALL run!

Air rifles are an ideal and to start with cheap way into shooting.
Targets are free.
Practice until you are happy and comfortable to take on live quarry.

I'm sure no-one want to make an animal suffer, so precision is necessary.

2 years ago I visited Pricey's, with a few other DS's.
I had been practicing on targets for a bit and was comfortable with my abilities.
I still learnt alot.
It was a trip worth making.

Pete

whitelegg1

Joined: 05 Apr 2005
Posts: 409
Location: Woodford Green

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 07 9:56 am Post subject:
I know Pricey mentioned the possibilty of a November meet. Anyone else organising anything???? All the rabbits seem to have disappeared form round my way.....or they're just very good at seeing me!!!! Pete

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