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Douglas in Transilvania

Joined: 11 Jan 2007
Posts: 11
Location: Huedin, Romania

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 07 12:38 pm Post subject: Lots of smallholdings available in Transilvania

Whole villages are empty of occupants. Traditional timber and mud houses are falling into ruin. Every house has an attached piece of land, usually enough to start a permaculture lifestyle and often enough to produce a sellable surplus. Low Impact Living Transylvania exists to save these houses and offer downsizers from western Europe the opportunity to have a positive impact on the existing traditional communities enormously under threat from corporate capitalism.
Our webserver seems to have crashed. You can contact us: [email protected] Tel Romania 0264 351150

sally_in_wales
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Joined: 06 Mar 2005
Posts: 20809
Location: sunny wales

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 07 1:44 pm Post subject:

How about a quick overview of what a potential lifestyle relocation from the UK to Transylvania would involve Douglas? I always find its really interesting to hear about fundamental differences in things like availability of services, legal or government things that have to be adapted to (taxes, planning peculiarities etc) and any other things that become important if someone decided to relocate. Its so easy to just look at othre countries and focus on climate, scenery, and so on and forget the mechanics of trying to live in a modern world as well.

alisjs

Joined: 23 Jun 2006
Posts: 1497
Location: Conwy

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 07 1:48 pm Post subject:
hi Douglas....was it your organisation that gave a presentation at CAT members conference a couple of months ago?

Douglas in Transilvania

Joined: 11 Jan 2007
Posts: 11
Location: Huedin, Romania

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 07 9:03 pm Post subject:

alisjs wrote:

hi Douglas....was it your organisation that gave a presentation at CAT members conference a couple of months ago?

Yes we gave a presentation at CAT conference. Unfortunately I said a lot about the history of Transilvania and not much about us. I could say you can find out more on the website, but unfortunately our server is no longer functioning.
Email us at [email protected] for more info.

James

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 2866
Location: York

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 07 11:38 am Post subject:
douglas- what sort of costs are involved, say for a small house, water supply and a few acres?

dougal

Joined: 15 Jan 2005
Posts: 7184
Location: South Kent

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 07 12:37 pm Post subject:
One basic question - how is land ownership proved over there? How do you know that the person you are buying from is the real (and undisputed) owner?

mochyn

Joined: 21 Dec 2004
Posts: 24585
Location: mid-Wales

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 07 12:42 pm Post subject:
I have only one comment. Transilvanian Families.

MarkS

Joined: 01 Aug 2006
Posts: 2626

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 07 12:57 pm Post subject:

dougal wrote:

One basic question - how is land ownership proved over there?

How do you know that the person you are buying from is the real (and undisputed) owner?

yep.

Behemoth

Joined: 01 Dec 2004
Posts: 19023
Location: Leeds

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 07 12:59 pm Post subject:
Health, education and why are these places empty? Are people being forced out or are they moving out of choice for a more comfortable life and paid employment?

mochyn

Joined: 21 Dec 2004
Posts: 24585
Location: mid-Wales

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 07 1:00 pm Post subject:
Also, are you allowed to buy land? I know it's not that easy in Hungary, for example. You need some sort of proof of residence, or something.

James

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 2866
Location: York

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 07 2:20 pm Post subject:

mochyn wrote:

I have only one comment.

Transilvanian Families.

yeh, thats my concern also.
However...if they trully are empty, then is it justifyable to use the land for a productive purpose?

In Croatia there's a large proportion of farms that are derrilict. This is becuase of the war, then a move to towns chasing the tourist dollar.

(interestingly, there's a marked difference in attitude between the croatian 'landowners' and the western Europeans- the Croatians dont have land boundaries to speak of, and anyone can walk throughout the fields and farmland. The only locked gates we saw were had English, French or German signs on them.)

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