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sean
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 05 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

And deleting Outlook Express is always a good idea.

Bernie66



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 05 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

what is the minimum spec laptop i would need for running thunderbird or the like and microsoft word and not much more. not made of money and would like some thing that will do the above but not bothered about cd/dvd playing etc.
will have a bit of money left over from the move and would like to spend it wisely rather than paying out for an all singing all dancing top of the range laptop which i will not need or get the benefits from

Bernie66



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 05 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

sean wrote:
And deleting Outlook Express is always a good idea.

seemed to be a good idea at the time
now i get looked at like an idiot when i confess

bagpuss



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 05 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Also if you new broadband provider doesn't give you email which to be fair is unlikely you may want to consider gmail as an alternative. This is googles webmail service whose accounts are currently only availible by
invite but if you want one pm me with you current email address and I can send you one

tahir



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 05 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

The cheapest laptop you can find will run Thunderbird, Word and a browser (Firefox if you're not using it already) adequately. If yu're going to use it for browsing just go for the biggest screen you can afford.

joanne



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Morecambe, Lancashire
PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 05 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

tahir wrote:
Bernie66 wrote:
does it have any supporters on this site?


Me and bugs for starters, it's an email programme like Outlook Express but better


And me - I love it - its so much better than Outlook or Express - although it doesn't have all the functionality yet but its getting there

Joanne

dougal



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 05 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Bernie66 wrote:
...might go the whole hog and get a laptop to use myself so the kids can carry on using this pc without getting in my way


Sounds like a router... (so don't attach any value to supplier's offers of a 'free usb broadband modem')

PC laptops. Depends what you want. You can get a basic machine for �400 inc vat new (Dell Inspiron).
Thats all my nephew *needs*. But he regards games playing as at least 50% of what the machine's for. So he 'needs' a pukka graphics chip with dedicated (not shared) video/screen ram (�6/700 Acer Aspire). But being only 14, he doesnt want to lug a 100+watt, 3.7kg machine with a 15+" screen around - and even though he has no requirement for long battery runtime, thats what he'd get at the �1400 pricepoint implied for a 'compact' laptop with dedicated graphics subsystem. Oh, and his budget is well under �1000.
So its a matter of chosing what you'll willingly pay for, and what you'd settle for...

Bernie66



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 05 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

There will be NO computer games on it at all. I hate them and won't pay for them.I don't need battery time or great graphics so i will prob. go for the �400 option. cheers

tahir



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 05 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

There were some good deals recently at PCworld in the �300ish bracket.

Mat S



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 05 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Another firefox & thunderbird user here. Like Linux, it's all free and it's all great!

Gervase



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 05 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Or get a Mac running OSX (like the PowerBook I bought on eBay for �90 last month) and use the built-in Safari browser and Mail apps.

sean
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 05 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Gervase wrote:
Or get a Mac running OSX (like the PowerBook I bought on eBay for �90 last month) and use the built-in Safari browser and Mail apps.


That's a bit of a result, congratulations.

bagpuss



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 05 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Gervase wrote:
Or get a Mac running OSX (like the PowerBook I bought on eBay for �90 last month) and use the built-in Safari browser and Mail apps.


wow a powerbook for �90, well done

culpepper



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 05 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

honestly I cant understand people buying hugely expensive machines so the kids can play games when there are machines like xbox etc that can do that.

For just browsing and email nearly anything will do.

Im suprised they havent come out with a machine that can do nothing else (or have they?)

jema
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 05 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

There are frequent initiatives like "Lindows" (since renamed) to create cheap boxes for the basics.

These days PCs are way over pwered for basic work. Even with software development you rarely need the power on offer.

To give an example. I worked on the same project for 10 years. When I started, compiling the complete project which was smaller and simpler back then, took several hours. Now it takes 4 minutes.

I used to upgrade my PC yearly, as I really needed the extra juice. But once they got past the 1ghz barrier there was no real need. Except of course for the games!

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