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woodsprite

Joined: 20 Mar 2006
Posts: 2943
Location: North Herefordshire

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 08 7:44 pm Post subject:

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If you decide to live abroad and then decide to live in your own nice little 'English' ghetto then you deserve what you get.
Conversely, if you make the effort to learn the language and integrate then your experience will be that much more complete.

I prefer option 2. Because option 1 is a bit like sticking two fingers up to the locals. And that's not nice.

Absolutely agree and the same is true of England. There's a pub in the next town along that is almost exclusively eastern european, they rarely speak to the locals much less socialise with them.

Vanessa

Joined: 08 May 2006
Posts: 8324

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 08 8:51 pm Post subject:
Poor you! I'd be changing the car over to Portuguese plates pronto in your position! We had similar when we imported a small 4x4 from England ... we were accosted in the supermarkets and followed around! Like having UK plates suddenly declared some sort of "open season" on us Needless to say, that car is now locally-registered, and far less-obtrusive now.

Slim

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Posts: 6625
Location: New England (In the US of A)

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 08 10:29 pm Post subject:
Maybe someday I'll emigrate to your side of the pond and open up an American bar. No one can drink until they're 21, and then it'll only be sex-in-a-canoe beer that they have to chug. Plus the music will be terrible.

toggle

Joined: 30 Dec 2006
Posts: 11622
Location: truro

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 08 10:41 pm Post subject:

cpg03 wrote:

Maybe someday I'll emigrate to your side of the pond and open up an American bar. No one can drink until they're 21, and then it'll only be sex-in-a-canoe beer that they have to chug. Plus the music will be terrible.

already have a bunch of them in town. when most of my friends started hanging out in them post uni, i decided i wasn't missing out on much having to stay at home with boychild

Slim

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Posts: 6625
Location: New England (In the US of A)

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 08 10:44 pm Post subject:

toggle wrote:

cpg03 wrote:

already have a bunch of them in town. when most of my friends started hanging out in them post uni, i decided i wasn't missing out on much having to stay at home with boychild

seriously? My sympathies.

Makes me wonder what a uk "american" bar is like, as I don't have too much faith in the authenticity of american "irish"/"english" pubs....

toggle

Joined: 30 Dec 2006
Posts: 11622
Location: truro

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 08 10:55 pm Post subject:
we do a great line in fake irish bars in london as well.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46313
Location: yes

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 08 12:02 am Post subject:
being obtrusive can get one a darwin award fron the balkan mafia so wait im not embarrassed by the crass i just read the local paper

pricey

Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Posts: 6444

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 08 12:47 am Post subject:
Tell me they are not in Pedrogao, please!!!!!!!

Andrea

Joined: 02 May 2005
Posts: 2260
Location: Portugal

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 08 6:44 am Post subject:

pricey wrote:

Tell me they are not in Pedrogao, please!!!!!!!

You're not going to like this Pricey, but that's where they stopped me!

The bar isn't though, it's off down the IC8 somewhere. I've got their telephone number somewhere if you'd like it?

Contadino

Joined: 28 Sep 2007
Posts: 190
Location: Puglia, Italia

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 08 7:26 am Post subject: Re: English Bar

Andrea wrote:

I got collared by an appalling English couple yesterday (my bus has UK plates so I was a sitting duck) who were trying to get me to come to their new 'English Bar'. They were absolutely awful, everything about the English abroad that makes me cringe. I said that I wouldn't drive 40 km to go to a bar when there's a perfectly good one just down the road & they (honestly) answered 'but surely that's so Portuguese?' with that sneery upper lip thing going on. Of course it's Portuguese you stupid twerp, this is Portugal.

Why go all the way to Portugal / Spain / France / wherever, then recreate an English bar? Reckon they have fights on Saturday nights & teenage girls puking up blue WKD?

Thank your lucky stars it's 40km away.

The irony, of course, is that the 'English Bar' regulars probably sit around moaning about how the UK has gone to the dogs because of all the immigrants who don't try to integrate into local communities.

Fortunately the (Irish) owner of the English Bar in our town has just been sent down for armed robbery and intimidating a judge. Bar now closed, and gradually being stripped of all assets by the local kids.

vegplot

Joined: 19 Apr 2007
Posts: 21301
Location: Bethesda, Gwynedd

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 08 11:56 am Post subject:

cpg03 wrote:

Your local bar is full of Belgian beer. So an American bar in the UK is one that sells continental liquors but with US decor.

Slim

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Posts: 6625
Location: New England (In the US of A)

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 08 1:14 pm Post subject:

vegplot wrote:

cpg03 wrote:

Your local bar is full of Belgian beer. So an American bar in the UK is one that sells continental liquors but with US decor.

Well if I were trying to give you a taste of a REAL American bar, I'd attempt to replicate another good (but very different one) around here, called Ye Olde Watering Hole & beer can museum

Grenwich

Joined: 20 Jan 2008
Posts: 151
Location: Leicestershire

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 08 1:26 pm Post subject:

Its all true, there are some horrible ex-pats, probably all over the world, but you have to bear in mind that they are the loudest ones. There must also be many quiet, native speaking and living brits who are not so noticeable and who have respect for the people who's country they are in. It amazes me that we have only so far heard of - not met - one Spanish person who didn't like us Brits. That may be because we are way back from the coast but I like to think that ex-pats are not all bad.

We were in a Spanish bar for St Patrick's night last year. That was sooooooo funny. A great time was had by all - and none of us are Irish.

tigger

Joined: 13 Nov 2005
Posts: 725
Location: Bologna (Italy)

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 08 10:03 am Post subject:
There is another take away pizzeria in the town where we've opened ours, owned by an egyptian man. The Italians and EC customers come to us, the muslim customers go to them, then dive into ours to buy beer, checking no-ones watching!!

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34535
Location: Hereford

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 08 10:49 am Post subject:

toggle wrote:

we do a great line in fake irish bars in london as well.

Guinness signs, green flags, fake shamrocks? They're all over the world. Well, not quite everywhere. There aren't any like it in Ireland, once you leave Temple Bar. There is an appalling example in Monaco however, of all places.

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