The stoat is a way of stopping a debate taking a particularly downward spiralling line of nit-picking & pettiness and is a useful way to express frustration that one or more people don't 'get' your point, and probably never will.
Its also a pretty dull and tedious way of avoiding the question, of diverting attention away from an intellectually bankrupt idea. Its a form of bottling out, I'd prefer people to simply not post rather than to take the mick like that.
Its also a pretty dull and tedious way of avoiding the question, of diverting attention away from an intellectually bankrupt idea. Its a form of bottling out, I'd prefer people to simply not post rather than to take the mick like that.
If you choose to use it in such a way then it really makes no difference what 'label' you use for it, it still amounts to the same thing. As I recall though it first came into being in response to an intellectually bankrupt idea:
Brownbear wrote:
MarkS wrote:
Tbh, I'm wondering if gnc is just *too* clever for us.
The mistake you are making is to attempt to counter unreason with reason. When someone tells you that the sky is the colour of wonder, the correct response is not to ask them for an explanation, but to offer them a stoat.
ethics should be discussed
a virtual village needs exchange of ideas
i will try to be polite especially when i have strong feelings on a subject ,rudeness rather than reason should be discouraged at an individual level whatever the nature of it ,not by removing the thread in case some are rude or even boring
boring can take sudden turns that change folks lives
ds is about folk ,folk discuss things .
im not suggesting anything goes as to posts ,i do believe that this village can tolerate discussion of ethical issues as well as chook keeping or moos or wool or etc etc etc
sustainable and ethical should include all and 22 pages and a few days has not covered a lot of folk who visit less regularly
i still would like someone to try to explain her position and why it is so important
Jonnyboy
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 08 4:09 pm Post subject:
dpack wrote:
i still would like someone to try to explain her position and why it is so important
ds is about folk ,folk discuss things .
im not suggesting anything goes as to posts ,i do believe that this village can tolerate discussion of ethical issues as well as chook keeping or moos or wool or etc etc etc
Totally, but users should be aware of the huge effort we mods incur when things go pear shaped, we take these things very seriously and put in huge amounts of time in debating what steps need to be taken, how, by whom etc, this apart from PM conversations with potentially aggrieved members.
Without exception our mods are here for the right reason, without exception they're all very busy people. If people debate sensibly then this isn't an issue.
Totally, but users should be aware of the huge effort we mods incur when things go pear shaped, we take these things very seriously and put in huge amounts of time in dbaiting what steps need to be taken, how, by whom etc, this apart from PM conversations with potentially aggrieved members.
Without exception our mods are here for the right reason, without exception they're all very busy people. If people debate sensibly then this isn't an issue.
Do you think that locking that thread at this time was the correct thing to do?
Do you think that locking that thread at this time was the correct thing to do?
I wasn't around, haven't got time to catch up on it now. You (of all people) will know exactly how much debate is going on around this issue in staff room right now.
The last set of issues cost me (at a time when I'm hugely busy) a whole morning of lost work. I do it because I agree with dpack that this village is a great place and one that should be able to discuss ethical issues sensibly, but that means participants need to bear in mind the effect this has on us as individuals.
It's not that simple, there are 22 of us, we like to achieve at least a clear majority, that means debate before a vote. The more participants the longer this takes....
Do you think that locking that thread at this time was the correct thing to do?
I wasn't around, haven't got time to catch up on it now. You (of all people) will know exactly how much debate is going on around this issue in staff room right now.
And I'm glad to be out of it
Refreshing to see a set of people questioning that here though; like I said earlier in this discussion, its a difficult balance to strike, and perhaps the temptation may be to look a little more pre-emptively if there have been other issues lately. I agree with Stacey (and others who have expressed a view here) that this was a little too pre-emptive.
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The last set of issues cost me (at a time when I'm hugely busy) a whole morning of lost work. I do it because I agree with dpack that this village is a great place and one that should be able to discuss ethical issues sensibly, but that means participants need to bear in mind the effect this has on us as individuals.
Agreed... Although perhaps the occasional thread like this may also have value in keeping the stresses in staff room in perspective.
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