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moogie

Joined: 02 Feb 2005
Posts: 525
Location: Near Bridgend

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 05 12:19 pm Post subject:
Wherre did you find it? And what does it look like?

sean
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Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: North Devon

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 05 12:22 pm Post subject:
It's outside the house and involved in a blocked up chimney thing, so not too worrying. It looks like corrugated board stuff, but it's got loads of layers of paint on it, which I'm loath to disturb.

judith

Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Posts: 22789
Location: Montgomeryshire

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 05 12:34 pm Post subject:

The corrugated stuff is safe while it is in one piece and undisturbed - just don't go crushing it into small pieces and breathing hard. Our Council has a skip for asbestos at the disposal facility. If you want to get rid of the stuff, wear a mask, take it out, and then double-bag it if you want to be really safe.
The waste disposal people at your Council should be able to tell you where to take it.

Riverflow

Joined: 05 Jan 2005
Posts: 22
Location: Deepest Darkest Hampshire

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 05 12:47 pm Post subject:

I agree with Judith on this one - cement bonded asbestos like this appears to be is only dangerous when you start breaking it and making dust. I'd have thought the paint is doing a good job of holding it all together. Here in Hampshire there's a few dumps (Household Waste Recycling Centres as they like to be called) that take it, I believe with a maximum amount you can take in one go.

If you do have to break it, soak it with water and keep the hose running on it as you break it. The fibres can't get into the air if they are wet. I'd prefer snapping it to sawing it as the latter creates tons of dust.

The real dangerous asbestos is the wooly stuff used in insulation. This stuff floats around at the slightest touch. Also, asbestos brake pads/shoes can be dodgy - the action of braking produces dust quite readily which collects around the brake drum / calliper as a matter of course. I know a mechanic with asbestosis from years of changing these.

Above all, don't be too scared of it - take Judith's sensible precautions and keep it wet if you're in doubt about fibres in the air, and you'll be fine.

Colin

sean
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Location: North Devon

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 05 12:50 pm Post subject:
I'll probably just leave it alone then, as I said it's outside rather than in so not really worth risking a mesothelioma over.

Bugs

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 10744

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 05 2:06 pm Post subject:

sean wrote:

not really worth risking a mesothelioma over.

I'd have thought that words like mesothelioma would really bring in the lucrative compensation links

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45670
Location: Essex

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 05 2:09 pm Post subject:
That and asbestos...

hils

Joined: 08 Mar 2005
Posts: 568
Location: Nottingham

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 05 2:10 pm Post subject:

Riverflow wrote:

If you do have to break it, soak it with water and keep the hose running on it as you break it.

Ditto to this - we had a specially arranged removal of the stuff at the allotments - only catch being we had to get it to the car parks our self!

I did this and I soaked it first (luckily it had rained the night before too) and wore goggles and a breathing mask. I still have masses of it including a potting shed entirley made of it. I just use this as a store shed and wear a mask when I go in. Very hand for a neuclear warfare shelter (I've been told)

wizz

Joined: 06 Apr 2005
Posts: 561

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 05 2:13 pm Post subject:
We had an old garage roof made of strips of the corrugated stuff. The council sent us a load of info (mostly advice as outlined above)and were happy to pick it up and dispose of it all for �20 as long as it was wrapped in 2 layers of clear plastic. wizz

Behemoth

Joined: 01 Dec 2004
Posts: 19023
Location: Leeds

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 05 2:31 pm Post subject:

tahir wrote:

That and asbestos...

And I'll just add Armley - the bit of leeds where I live and site of an asbestos factory that spewed dust all over the far end of the neighbourhood. Local houses have had to be cleansed and are sold with prominent mentions about their 'clear' certificate. Kids who went to the local school across the road can remember being sent out into the playground to sweep up the dust.

sean
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Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 42219
Location: North Devon

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 05 2:52 pm Post subject:

Bugs wrote:

sean wrote:

not really worth risking a mesothelioma over.

I'd have thought that words like mesothelioma would really bring in the lucrative compensation links

Never crossed my mind squire....

jema
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Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 28235
Location: escaped from Swindon

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 05 3:38 pm Post subject:

sean wrote:

Bugs wrote:

sean wrote:

not really worth risking a mesothelioma over.

I'd have thought that words like mesothelioma would really bring in the lucrative compensation links

Never crossed my mind squire....

Just be careful not to repeat mesothelioma without need!

moogie

Joined: 02 Feb 2005
Posts: 525
Location: Near Bridgend

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 05 4:04 pm Post subject:
My parents have got a shed and a garage made entirely of it, even now. I looked into getting it removed for them, and ditto to everyone else, as long as it wasn't broken and you took it out in one sheet, it should be perfectly fine.

judyofthewoods

Joined: 29 Jan 2005
Posts: 804
Location: Pembrokeshire

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 05 12:34 am Post subject:

Just a thought, if you (in general) have to cut or brake it, perhaps soaking it with waste oil from the chippies might be better (if it soakes in). Reason - if you use water, it will dry and any particles that have broken off, can be potentially inhaled at a later date. Oil will coat the particles and make them too big to be a hazard, even when dry. Once oil soaked, or for painted asbestos, I would still use a water mist when braking it up, if braking up is unavoidable, as teh oil may not soak all the way in.

JonO

Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Posts: 119
Location: South Birmingham

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 05 12:33 pm Post subject:

My garage was made of it, and I pulled it all down. Kept as much whole as possible and dampened it down with a hose whilst wearing a suit 'n' mask. I then wrapped it all up in polythene and the council took it away for free !

I live in B'ham and our council collects as long as it's stacked and wrapped (Just got a huge sheet of polythene from a builders merchant). But I know other nearby councils (Wolverhampton) charge for removal so it's worth calling them to find out.

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