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VM

Joined: 23 Nov 2007
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 08 8:53 pm Post subject:

I think it's an excellent idea. Some people on here obviously know a lot, but the same questions come up often, probably from people like me who don't know much. Also, was just looking at another forum that I drop into occasionally (Selfsufficientish) and people discussing question of feeding scraps to domestic poultry which I've seen mentioned here a lot - must be frustrating if you are one of the people who reads the Defra stuff and knows something!

Think the point I'm trying to make is that, yes, the knowledge does seem fragmented - though lots of it - and there are many people out there needing education /enlightenment

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 08 8:27 am Post subject:
I get the impression there's a fair variance in how local officials implement the various rules and regs. So a database might help but at the end of the day you need to do what your local official wants, even if you have to help them understand the regs in the first place!

Rob R

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 31902
Location: York

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 08 9:48 am Post subject:

fisheagle wrote:

Are we talking H & S or DEFRA or both and do we intertwine the two? We shouldn't but a lot do, mainly due to lack of knowledge!

Everything that affects us, regulatory speaking, as individual separate issues.

fisheagle

Joined: 25 Nov 2008
Posts: 15

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 08 9:10 pm Post subject:
the problem with a lot of legislation (especially H & S) is the vagueness - OK it means that it can be applied to everything, but it does mean that one persons inerpretation is nothing like the next persons! Makes life awkward at times to say the least!

dpack

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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 08 11:27 pm Post subject:
umm there is a need then

fisheagle

Joined: 25 Nov 2008
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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 08 8:40 pm Post subject:
I'd say so, in fact I definately say so!

dpack

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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 08 2:58 pm Post subject:
where do we start then ?

fisheagle

Joined: 25 Nov 2008
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 08 7:46 pm Post subject:
Good question, get the person who started this thread to get the ball rolling - give us his experiences maybe of the various use of certain bits of legislation - the Health and Safety at Work etc Act 1974 (note the word WORK) or the Environment Protection Act for a start!

dpack

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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 08 8:00 pm Post subject:
who wants to help ?

fisheagle

Joined: 25 Nov 2008
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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 08 8:45 pm Post subject:
Well I hate to admit it but I'm one o' they funny people -specialise in Construction - from an H&S viewpoint - commercial mostly so it won't affect most of ye but try me..................if it gets too technical of course I'll start charging, after all it's how I make my daily bread! I must be mad to admit it but hey what the!

chez

Joined: 13 Aug 2006
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Location: The Hive of the Uberbee, Quantock Hills, Somerset

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 08 8:59 pm Post subject:

If it was done as a blog, then it could be done on a standard platform which allowed keyword-tagging. It seems from the thread that a lot of this stuff is experiential and not really set in stone ... so it would be a catalogue of people's experiences rather than an "If A happens and you want to do B, then pull the Big Green Handle" kind of thing?

So on a blog, people could ramble about each particular experience for a bit - "This happened, I did this, they said that, the outcome was this" ... and tag it with keywords.

Then people looking for similar situations could search the blog on keywords for appropriate help?

I suppose you could do a database that would do the same thing ... but might it be re-inventing the wheel?

dpack

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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 08 3:47 pm Post subject:
ummm

fisheagle

Joined: 25 Nov 2008
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 08 9:59 pm Post subject:
rather falling flat this isn't it? appears nobody cares until too late.........about the way of things in this apathetic world! Human nature for you I guess

dpack

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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 08 10:59 pm Post subject:

fisheagle wrote:

rather falling flat this isn't it? appears nobody cares until too late.........about the way of things in this apathetic world! Human nature for you I guess

ok i find a smile and a strong but open mind is a start
rule one be nice and ask for advice

next

fisheagle

Joined: 25 Nov 2008
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 08 5:39 pm Post subject:
all well and good but I thought I was offering not asking; the floor is still open for anybody who would like a bit of help on this subject, such that I can offer; on this subject I'll say no more unless asked

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