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rhyddid

Joined: 30 Jan 2005
Posts: 228

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 09 7:07 pm Post subject: Fumidil B

Are Thornes currently able to supply Fumidil B ? I know there was a question mark some weeks ago on the long term availability of this product.

If not Thornes, are there any alternative suppliers ?

I've lost one of my two colonies to what I suspect is a case of nosema cerenae (not sure of spelling). The remaining colony is much weakened.

I am not too despondent about this loss. I spoke to a gentlemen last week who has lost approximately sixteen of his colonies this year. His worst year of beekeeping in a quarter of a century.

Tavascarow

Joined: 06 Aug 2006
Posts: 8407
Location: South Cornwall

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 09 6:50 am Post subject:
Never had a problem with nosema so I don't have an answer to your question & don't know any alternatives either.

joanne

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 7100
Location: Morecambe, Lancashire

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 09 7:50 am Post subject:
Absolutely no problem whatsoever with supply - It wasn't removed from the allowed list The cynical might say that Thornes had rather alot of the stuff and panicked thinking they might get lumbered with it so tried to induce similar panic in the Beekeeping punters but not me - no I would never say that

lottie

Joined: 11 Aug 2005
Posts: 5059
Location: ceredigion

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 09 8:06 am Post subject:
The local bee inspector recommended we treat all our hives at the autumn feed as a precautionary measure----our bee group bought it in bulk as it was cheaper---I haven't heard that it's being discontinued---I thought you could still buy it.

joanne

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 7100
Location: Morecambe, Lancashire

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 09 8:35 am Post subject:

You can still buy it thats the point - Thornes sent an e-mail out to everyone on their list earlier this year to highlight that Fumidil B was on the list of chemicals that might be banned when it went before a Quango-type committee - so look we've got lots here for you to buy and stock up on - just in case so to speak

It went before the committee and wasn't banned - so there is no problem and you can still buy it as its the only treatment we have for Nosema at this moment in time - The problem is that it is a very old anti-biotic and they like to withdraw them after a certain length of time for resistance reasons - but currently there are no plans to do so

lottie

Joined: 11 Aug 2005
Posts: 5059
Location: ceredigion

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 09 8:44 am Post subject:
Right---I understand now.

Tavascarow

Joined: 06 Aug 2006
Posts: 8407
Location: South Cornwall

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 09 9:32 am Post subject:

lottie wrote:

The local bee inspector recommended we treat all our hives at the autumn feed as a precautionary measure----our bee group bought it in bulk as it was cheaper---I haven't heard that it's being discontinued---I thought you could still buy it.

Thats the sort of advice that builds resistant strains of a pest or disease quicker than it should.
Better get down to the doctors & dose up on antibiotics incase you catch something.
Diligent observation of your bees & if a problem occurs prompt treatment using the correct doses for the recommended times & preferably with alternating chemicals/drugs instead of this use one till resistance is formed then use a stronger one habit that beekeepers have to put up with.

lottie

Joined: 11 Aug 2005
Posts: 5059
Location: ceredigion

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 09 9:46 am Post subject:

Tavascarow wrote:

lottie wrote:

Normally I would agree, but it has been a big problem in our local area with large losses. We had a testing session with microscopes under the inspectors supervision one night and it was clear it was a problem for several people---on the balance of the situation I decided to treat and my colonies have come through the winter well---so hopefully it was the right decision for me. Normally I'm more in the breeding from the survivors and not overtreating is the answer to disease and varroa camp---but I just couldn't afford to lose bees after last summer.

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